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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] cgroup TODOs
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:26:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120920182651.GH28934@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <505A725B.2080901-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>

Hello,

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 06:33:15PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> [grr.  why does gmane scramble addresses?]

You can append /raw to the message url and see the raw mssage.

  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.containers/23802/raw

> >   I think this level of flexibility should be enough for most use
> >   cases.  If someone disagrees, please voice your objections now.
> 
> OK, I'll bite.
> 
> I have a server that has a whole bunch of cores.  A small fraction of
> those cores are general purpose and run whatever they like.  The rest
> are tightly controlled.
> 
> For simplicity, we have two cpusets that we use.  The root allows all
> cpus.  The other one only allows the general purpose cpus.  We shove
> everything into the general-purpose-only cpuset, and then we move
> special stuff back to root.  (We also shove some kernel threads into a
> non-root cpuset using the 'cset' tool.)

Using root for special stuff probably isn't a good idea and moving
bound kthreads into !root cgroups is already disallowed.

> Enter systemd, which wants a hierarchy corresponding to services.  If we
> were to use it, we might end up violating its hierarchy.
> 
> Alternatively, if we started using memcg, then we might have some tasks
> to have more restrictive memory usage but less restrictive cpu usage.
> 
> As long as we can still pull this off, I'm happy.

IIUC, you basically want just two groups w/ cpuset and use it for
loose cpu ioslation for high priority jobs.  Structure-wise, I don't
think it's gonna be a problem although using root for special stuff
would need to change.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-20 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-13 20:58 [RFC] cgroup TODOs Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 11:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 12:54   ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]     ` <20120914125427.GW6819-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14  8:55       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-14 17:53   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <20120913205827.GO7677-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14  8:16   ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <5052E7DF.7040000-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14  9:12       ` Li Zefan
     [not found]         ` <5052F4FF.6070508-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 11:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 17:59           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20120914175944.GF17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 18:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 18:33                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 17:43       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20120914174329.GD17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17  8:50           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]             ` <5056E467.2090108-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 17:21               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20120917172123.GB18677-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-18  8:16                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-14  9:04   ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]     ` <1347613484.4340.132.camel-YqMYhexLQo31wTEvPJ5Q0F6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 17:17       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14  9:10   ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]     ` <20120914091032.GA6819-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14  9:08       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-14 13:58       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20120914135830.GB6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 19:29           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20120914192935.GO17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 21:51               ` Kay Sievers
2012-09-14 14:25   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <20120914142539.GC6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 14:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 15:14         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]           ` <20120914151447.GD6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 21:57             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20120914215701.GW17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 15:27                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-18 18:08                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-17  8:55             ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-14 21:39       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20120914213938.GV17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 15:05           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120917150518.GB5094-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 16:40               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 15:03   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <20120914150306.GQ28039-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-19 14:02       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20120919140203.GA5398-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-19 14:03           ` [PATCH 2.6.32] memcg: warn on deeper hierarchies with use_hierarchy==0 Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <20120919140308.GB5398-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-19 19:38               ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1209191237020.749-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-20 13:24                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <20120920132400.GC23872-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-20 22:33                       ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                         ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1209201531250.17455-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-21  7:16                           ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:03           ` [PATCH 3.0] " Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:05           ` [PATCH 3.2+] " Michal Hocko
2012-09-14 18:07   ` [RFC] cgroup TODOs Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <20120914180754.GF6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 18:53       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20120914185324.GI17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 19:28           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120914192840.GG6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 19:44               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20120914194439.GP17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 19:49                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20120914194950.GQ17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 20:39                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20120914203925.GR17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17  8:40                           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                             ` <5056E1FC.1090508-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 17:30                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-17 14:37                           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-14 18:36   ` Aristeu Rozanski
     [not found]     ` <20120914183641.GA2191-YqEmrenMroyQb786VAuzj9i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 18:54       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-15  2:20       ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20120915022037.GA6438-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-15  9:27           ` Controlling devices and device namespaces Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87wqzv7i08.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-15 22:05               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20120915220520.GA11364-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16  0:24                   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <87y5kazuez.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16  3:31                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-09-16 11:21                       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                         ` <20120916122112.3f16178d-38n7/U1jhRXW96NNrWNlrekiAK3p4hvP@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 11:56                           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <87sjaiuqp5.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 12:17                               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <87d31mupp3.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 13:32                                   ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]                                     ` <5055D4D1.3070407-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 14:23                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <87k3vuqc5l.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 16:13                                           ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                             ` <20120916171316.517ad0fd-38n7/U1jhRXW96NNrWNlrekiAK3p4hvP@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 17:49                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16 16:15                                           ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]                                             ` <5055FB2A.1020103-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 16:53                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16  8:19       ` [RFC] cgroup TODOs James Bottomley
     [not found]         ` <1347783557.2463.1.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 14:41           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-17 13:21           ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-09-14 22:03   ` Dhaval Giani
     [not found]     ` <CAPhKKr8wDLrcWHLTRq1M7gU_6CGNxzzF83zJo2WZ5vrY7h8Qyw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 22:06       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-20  1:33   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <505A725B.2080901-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-20 18:26       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20120920182651.GH28934-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-20 18:39           ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-21 21:40   ` Tejun Heo

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