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From: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Aristeu Rozanski <aris-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Why does devices cgroup check for CAP_SYS_ADMIN explicitly?
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:02:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121106180233.GA31008@sergelap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121106174130.GL30069-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>

Quoting Tejun Heo (tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org):
> Just one more thing.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 09:38:23AM -0800, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 11:31:04AM -0600, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > > We can't generally require a capability to move tasks between cgroups,
> > > as that will break currently intended uses.  I can create two cgroups,
> > > chown them to serge, and let serge move between them.
> > 
> > Sure, then just live with the cgroupfs based permission check.  What
> > next?  Should we add CAP_SYS_RESOURCE check to all resource related
> > controllers?  Moreover, We're headed to unified hierarchy, so in the
> > end that means only the user with almost all CAP_* can manipulate
> > cgroups at all making the whole thing meaningless.
> 
> As for using cgroup as !root user, I would advise not doing that.
> Again, we're moving toward a unified cgroup hierarchy.  You wouldn't
> be creating multiple cgroup hierarchies and assigning different user
> accesses to them.  Also, I would strongly discourage chowning sub
> directories in cgroupfs and letting non-priviledged users modify them
> directly.

So to be clear, if I want a user to be able to confine his own
compute-intensive tasks and freeze them, the recommended route will be
with privileged (setuid-root) helpers?

-serge

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-06 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-06  2:38 Why does devices cgroup check for CAP_SYS_ADMIN explicitly? Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <20121106023845.GI19354-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 11:58   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <877gpzrlir.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 14:48       ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-06 15:01       ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-06 15:06         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20121106150639.GB30069-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 15:30             ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-06 15:41               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20121106154105.GD30069-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 16:12                   ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-11-06 15:34             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <871ug6rbio.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 15:43                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20121106154320.GE30069-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 16:10                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                       ` <87sj8mogpp.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 16:52                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                           ` <20121106165246.GF30069-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 17:31                             ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-06 17:38                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                 ` <20121106173823.GK30069-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 17:41                                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                     ` <20121106174130.GL30069-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 18:02                                       ` Serge Hallyn [this message]
2012-11-06 18:08                                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-06 18:12                                   ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-06 18:16                                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                       ` <20121106181623.GO30069-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 18:25                                         ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-06 15:45                 ` Serge Hallyn

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