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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] memcg: replace cgroup_lock with memcg specific memcg_lock
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:22:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121204152225.GC3885@mtj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121204151420.GL31319-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>

Hello, Michal.

On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 04:14:20PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> OK, I read this as "generic helper doesn't make much sense". Then I
> would just ask. Does cgroup core really care whether we do
> list_empty test? Is this something that we have to care about in memcg
> and should fix? If yes then just try to do it as simple as possible.

The thing is, what does the test mean when it doesn't have proper
synchronization?  list_empty(&cgroup->children) doesn't really have a
precise meaning if you're not synchronized.  There could be cases
where such correct-most-of-the-time results are okay but depending on
stuff like that is a sure-fire way to subtle bugs.

So, my recommendation would be to bite the bullet and implement
properly synchronized on/offline state and teach the memcg iterator
about it so that memcg can definitively tell what's online and what's
not while holding memcg_mutex, and use such knowledge consistently.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-04 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-30 13:31 [PATCH 0/4] replace cgroup_lock with local lock in memcg Glauber Costa
2012-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 1/4] cgroup: warn about broken hierarchies only after css_online Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1354282286-32278-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-30 15:11     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20121130151158.GB3873-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-30 15:13         ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]           ` <50B8CD32.4080807-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-30 15:45             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20121130154504.GD3873-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-30 15:49                 ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-30 15:57                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 2/4] memcg: prevent changes to move_charge_at_immigrate during task attach Glauber Costa
2012-11-30 15:19   ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-30 15:29     ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1354282286-32278-3-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04  9:29     ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] memcg: split part of memcg creation to css_online Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1354282286-32278-4-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-03 17:32     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <20121203173205.GI17093-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04  8:05         ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]           ` <50BDAEC1.8040805-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04  8:17             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]               ` <20121204081756.GA31319-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04  8:32                 ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                   ` <50BDB511.5070107-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04  8:52                     ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 4/4] memcg: replace cgroup_lock with memcg specific memcg_lock Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1354282286-32278-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-03 17:15     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <20121203171532.GG17093-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-03 17:30         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <20121203173002.GH17093-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04  7:49             ` Glauber Costa
2012-12-04  7:58       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]         ` <50BDAD38.6030200-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04  8:23           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <20121204082316.GB31319-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04  8:31               ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                 ` <50BDB4E3.4040107-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04  8:45                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <20121204084544.GC31319-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04 14:52                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20121204145221.GA3885-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04 15:14                           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                             ` <20121204151420.GL31319-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-04 15:22                               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <20121204152225.GC3885-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-05 14:35                                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                     ` <20121205143537.GC9714-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-12-05 14:41                                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1354282286-32278-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-30 15:52   ` [PATCH 0/4] replace cgroup_lock with local lock in memcg Tejun Heo
2012-11-30 15:59     ` Glauber Costa

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