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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] blk-throttle: implement proper hierarchy support
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 15:26:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130503192656.GD6062@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130503191418.GC22860-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 12:14:18PM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 03:08:23PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > 		T1	T2	T3	T4	T5	T6	T7
> > parent:			b1	b2	b3		b4 	b5
> > child: 		b1	b2	b3		b4	b5	
> > 
> > 
> > So continuity breaks down because application is waiting for previous
> > IO to finish. This forces expiry of existing time slices and new time
> > slice start both in child and parent and penalty keep on increasing.
> 
> It's a problem even in flat mode as the "child" above can easily be
> just a process which is throttling itself and it won't be able to get
> the configured bandwidth due to the scheduling bubbles introduced
> whenever new slice is started.  Shouldn't be too difficult to get rid
> of, right?

Key thing here is when to start a new slice. Generally when an IO has been
dispatched from a group, we do not expire slice immediately. We kind of
give group some grace period of throtl_slice (100ms). If next IO does not
come with-in that duration, we start a fresh slice upon next IO arrival.

I think similar problem should happen if there are two stacked devices
and both are doing throttling and if delays between 2 IOs are big enough
that it forces expirty of slice on each device.

Atleast for the hiearchy case, we should be able to start a fresh time
slice when child transfer bio to parent. I will write a patch and do
some experiment.

Thanks
Vivek

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-03 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-02  0:39 [PATCHSET] blk-throttle: implement proper hierarchy support Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 11/31] blk-throttle: rename throtl_rb_root to throtl_service_queue Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 17/31] blk-throttle: move bio_lists[] and friends " Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 20/31] blk-throttle: add throtl_service_queue->parent_sq Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 21/31] blk-throttle: implement sq_to_tg(), sq_to_td() and throtl_log() Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <1367455189-6957-22-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-06 17:36     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20130506173644.GD11731-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-06 18:38         ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-06 20:38         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20130506203827.GE800-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-06 20:39             ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-06 20:41             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]               ` <20130506204141.GF11731-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-06 20:43                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 22/31] blk-throttle: set REQ_THROTTLED from throtl_charge_bio() and gate stats update with it Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 23/31] blk-throttle: separate out throtl_service_queue->pending_timer from throtl_data->dispatch_work Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 24/31] blk-throttle: implement dispatch looping Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 26/31] blk-throttle: make blk_throtl_drain() ready for hierarchy Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 27/31] blk-throttle: make blk_throtl_bio() " Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 29/31] blk-throttle: make throtl_pending_timer_fn() " Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 30/31] blk-throttle: implement throtl_grp->has_rules[] Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39 ` [PATCH 31/31] blk-throttle: implement proper hierarchy support Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1367455189-6957-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 01/31] blkcg: fix error return path in blkg_create() Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 02/31] blkcg: move blkg_for_each_descendant_pre() to block/blk-cgroup.h Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 03/31] blkcg: implement blkg_for_each_descendant_post() Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 04/31] blkcg: invoke blkcg_policy->pd_init() after parent is linked Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 05/31] blkcg: move bulk of blkcg_gq release operations to the RCU callback Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 06/31] blk-throttle: remove spurious throtl_enqueue_tg() call from throtl_select_dispatch() Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 07/31] blk-throttle: removed deferred config application mechanism Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1367455189-6957-8-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 14:49       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20130502144912.GE30020-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 17:27           ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 08/31] blk-throttle: collapse throtl_dispatch() into the work function Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 09/31] blk-throttle: relocate throtl_schedule_delayed_work() Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 10/31] blk-throttle: remove pointless throtl_nr_queued() optimizations Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 12/31] blk-throttle: simplify throtl_grp flag handling Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 13/31] blk-throttle: add backlink pointer from throtl_grp to throtl_data Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 14/31] blk-throttle: pass around throtl_service_queue instead of throtl_data Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 15/31] blk-throttle: reorganize throtl_service_queue passed around as argument Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1367455189-6957-16-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 15:21       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20130502152148.GF30020-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 17:29           ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 16/31] blk-throttle: add throtl_grp->service_queue Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 18/31] blk-throttle: dispatch to throtl_data->service_queue.bio_lists[] Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 19/31] blk-throttle: generalize update_disptime optimization in blk_throtl_bio() Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 25/31] blk-throttle: dispatch from throtl_pending_timer_fn() Tejun Heo
2013-05-02  0:39   ` [PATCH 28/31] blk-throttle: make tg_dispatch_one_bio() ready for hierarchy Tejun Heo
2013-05-02 17:34   ` [PATCHSET] blk-throttle: implement proper hierarchy support Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <20130502173428.GA4771-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 17:57       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20130502175701.GL19814-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 18:17           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20130502181747.GH30020-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 18:29               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20130502182933.GN19814-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 18:45                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                     ` <20130502184514.GI30020-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 18:49                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20130502184953.GP19814-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 19:07                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                             ` <20130502190732.GK30020-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 19:11                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                 ` <CAOS58YOk7G=dBG1v5Ed2z3biMMyKkkutp30vH5XC72z0_Z85cw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 19:31                                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                     ` <20130502193139.GL30020-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 23:13                                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                         ` <20130502231307.GT19814-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-03 17:56                                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                             ` <20130503175652.GB6062-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-03 18:57                                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                 ` <20130503185751.GA22860-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-03 18:58                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-03 19:08                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                                     ` <20130503190823.GC6062-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-03 19:14                                                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                         ` <20130503191418.GC22860-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-03 19:26                                                           ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2013-05-03 21:05                                                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                                             ` <20130503210513.GE6062-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-03 23:54                                                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20130503235455.GE22860-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-06 17:33                                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-05-02 18:08       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20130502180815.GG30020-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 18:44           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20130502184426.GO19814-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-02 18:59               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-05-04  0:50   ` [PATCH 29.5/32] blk-throttle: add throtl_qnode for dispatch fairness Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <20130504005044.GF22860-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-04  0:53       ` Tejun Heo
2013-05-06 16:00       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20130506160006.GA11731-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-06 18:35           ` Tejun Heo

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