From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov"
<kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>,
Anton Vorontsov
<anton.vorontsov-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] memcg: Limit the number of events registered on oom_control
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:57:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130807135734.GK8184@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130807134741.GF27006-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
On Wed 07-08-13 09:47:41, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 03:37:46PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > It isn't different from listening from epoll, for example.
> >
> > epoll limits the number of watchers, no?
>
> Not that I know of. It'll be limited by max open fds but I don't
> think there are other limits.
max_user_watches seems to be a limit (4% of lowmem in maximum).
> Why would there be?
Because userspace should hog kernel resources without any limit.
> > > If there needs to be kernel memory limit, shouldn't that be handled by
> > > kmemcg?
> >
> > kmemcg would surely help but turning it on just because of potential
> > abuse of the event registration API sounds like an overkill.
> >
> > I think having a cap for user trigable kernel resources is a good thing
> > in general.
>
> I don't know. It's just very arbitrary because listening to events
> itself isn't (and shouldn't) be something which consumes resource
> which isn't attributed to the listener and this artificially creates a
> global resource. The problem with memory usage event is breaching
> that rule with shared kmalloc() so putting well-defined limit on it is
> fine but the latter two create additional artificial restrictions
> which are both unnecessary and unconventional. No?
Hmm, OK so you think that the fd limit is sufficient already?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-07 13:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-07 11:28 [PATCH 1/3] memcg: limit the number of thresholds per-memcg Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 11:28 ` [PATCH 2/3] memcg: Limit the number of events registered on oom_control Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <1375874907-22013-2-git-send-email-mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 13:08 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 13:11 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 13:37 ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 13:47 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130807134741.GF27006-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 13:57 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2013-08-07 14:01 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 14:47 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20130807144730.GB13279-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 17:30 ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-09 0:46 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 11:28 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmpressure: limit the number of registered events Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <1375874907-22013-1-git-send-email-mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 13:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] memcg: limit the number of thresholds per-memcg Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 13:46 ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 13:58 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130807135818.GG27006-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 14:37 ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 22:05 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
[not found] ` <20130807220513.GA8068-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-08 14:43 ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-09 0:50 ` Tejun Heo
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