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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
	<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Anton Vorontsov
	<anton.vorontsov-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] memcg: limit the number of thresholds per-memcg
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:43:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130808144351.GD3189@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130807220513.GA8068-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>

On Thu 08-08-13 01:05:13, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 04:37:27PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 07-08-13 09:58:18, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 03:46:54PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > OK, I have obviously misunderstood your concern mentioned in the other
> > > > email. Could you be more specific what is the DoS scenario which was
> > > > your concern, then?
> > > 
> > > So, let's say the file is write-accessible to !priv user which is
> > > under reasonable resource limits.  Normally this shouldn't affect priv
> > > system tools which are monitoring the same event as it shouldn't be
> > > able to deplete resources as long as the resource control mechanisms
> > > are configured and functioning properly; however, the memory usage
> > > event puts all event listeners into a single contiguous table which a
> > > !priv user can easily expand to a size where the table can no longer
> > > be enlarged and if a priv system tool or another user tries to
> > > register event afterwards, it'll fail.  IOW, it creates a shared
> > > resource which isn't properly provisioned and can be trivially filled
> > > up making it an easy DoS target.
> > 
> > OK, got your point. You are right and I haven't considered the size of
> > the table and the size restrictions of kmalloc. Thanks for pointing this
> > out!
> > ---
> > From cde8a3333296eddd288780e78803610127401b6a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
> > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:11:22 +0200
> > Subject: [PATCH] memcg: limit the number of thresholds per-memcg
> > 
> > There is no limit for the maximum number of threshold events registered
> > per memcg. It is even worse that all the events are stored in a
> > per-memcg table which is enlarged when a new event is registered. This
> > can lead to the following issue mentioned by Tejun:
> > "
> > So, let's say the file is write-accessible to !priv user which is
> > under reasonable resource limits.  Normally this shouldn't affect priv
> > system tools which are monitoring the same event as it shouldn't be
> > able to deplete resources as long as the resource control mechanisms
> > are configured and functioning properly; however, the memory usage
> > event puts all event listeners into a single contiguous table which a
> > !priv user can easily expand to a size where the table can no longer
> > be enlarged and if a priv system tool or another user tries to
> > register event afterwards, it'll fail.  IOW, it creates a shared
> > resource which isn't properly provisioned and can be trivially filled
> > up making it an easy DoS target.
> > "
> > 
> > Let's be more strict and cap the number of events that might be
> > registered. MAX_THRESHOLD_EVENTS value is more or less random. The
> > expectation is that it should be high enough to cover reasonable
> > usecases while not too high to allow excessive resources consumption.
> > 1024 events consume something like 16KB which shouldn't be a big deal
> > and it should be good enough.
> 
> Is it correct that you fix one local DoS by introducing a new one?
> With the page the !priv user can block root from registering a threshold.
> Is it really the way we want to fix it?

OK, I will think about it some more.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-08 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07 11:28 [PATCH 1/3] memcg: limit the number of thresholds per-memcg Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 11:28 ` [PATCH 2/3] memcg: Limit the number of events registered on oom_control Michal Hocko
     [not found]   ` <1375874907-22013-2-git-send-email-mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 13:08     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 13:11       ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 13:37       ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 13:47         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20130807134741.GF27006-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 13:57             ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 14:01               ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 14:47               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                 ` <20130807144730.GB13279-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 17:30                   ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-09  0:46                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 11:28 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmpressure: limit the number of registered events Michal Hocko
     [not found] ` <1375874907-22013-1-git-send-email-mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 13:22   ` [PATCH 1/3] memcg: limit the number of thresholds per-memcg Tejun Heo
2013-08-07 13:46     ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 13:58       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20130807135818.GG27006-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 14:37           ` Michal Hocko
2013-08-07 22:05             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
     [not found]               ` <20130807220513.GA8068-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-08 14:43                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2013-08-09  0:50                   ` Tejun Heo

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