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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Markus Blank-Burian
	<burian-iYtK5bfT9M8b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt-nx8X9YLhiw1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Ying Han <yinghan-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Michel Lespinasse
	<walken-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Possible regression with cgroups in 3.11
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:01:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131113110108.GA22131@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131113033840.GC19394-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>

On Wed 13-11-13 12:38:40, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Michal.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 03:58:24PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Hmm, there is CSS_ONLINE and it has a different meaning that we would
> > need.
> > css_alive() would be a better fit. Something like the following:
> > 
> > static inline bool percpu_ref_alive(struct percpu_ref *ref)
> > {
> > 	int ret = false;
> > 	
> > 	rcu_lockdep_assert(rcu_read_lock_held(), "percpu_ref_alive needs an RCU lock");
> > 	return REF_STATUS(pcpu_count) == PCPU_REF_PTR;
> > }
> 
> I'd really like to avoid exposing percpu-ref locking details to its
> users.  e.g. percpu_ref switched from normal RCU to sched RCU
> recently.
> 
> > static inline bool css_alive(struct cgroup_subsys_state *css)
> > {
> > 	return percpu_ref_alive(&css->refcnt);
> > }
> > 
> > and for our use we would have something like the following in
> > __mem_cgroup_try_charge_swapin:
> > 
> > 	memcg = try_get_mem_cgroup_from_page
> > 	[...]
> > 	__mem_cgroup_try_charge(...);
> > 
> > 	/*
> >          * try_get_mem_cgroup_from_page and the actual charge are not
> >          * done in the same RCU read section which means that the memcg
> >          * might get offlined before res counter is charged if the
> >          * current charger is not a memcg memeber so we have to recheck
> >          * the memcg's css status again here and revert that charge as
> >          * we cannot be sure it was accounted properly.
> > 	 */
> > 	if (!ret) {
> > 		rcu_read_lock();
> > 		if (!css_alive(&memcg->css)) {
> > 			__mem_cgroup_cancel_charge(memcg, 1);
> > 			rcu_read_unlock();
> > 			css_put(&memcg->css);
> > 			*memcgp = NULL;
> > 			goto charge_cur_mm;
> > 		}
> > 		rcu_read_unlock();
> > 	}
> 
> Without going into memcg details, the general cgroup policy now is to
> make each controller responsible for its own synchronization so that
> we don't end up entangling synchronization schemes of different
> controllers.  cgroup core invokes the appropriate callback on each
> state transition and provides certain guarantees so that controllers
> can implement proper synchronization from those callbacks.  During
> shutdown, ->css_offline() is where a css transits from life to death
> and memcg should be able to implement proper synchronization from
> there if necessary.

Fair enough. I will play with memcg specific flag.
 
Thanks.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-13 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-10  8:50 Possible regression with cgroups in 3.11 Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found] ` <4431690.ZqnBIdaGMg-fhzw3bAB8VLGE+7tAf435K1T39T6GgSB@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 13:06   ` Li Zefan
     [not found]     ` <5257F7CE.90702-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-11 16:05       ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]         ` <CA+SBX_Pa8sJbRq3aOghzqam5tDUbs_SPnVTaewtg-pRmvUqSzA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-12  6:00           ` Li Zefan
     [not found]             ` <5258E584.70500-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-14  8:06               ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                 ` <CA+SBX_MQVMuzWKroASK7Cr5J8cu9ajGo=CWr7SRs+OWh83h4_w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-15  3:15                   ` Li Zefan
     [not found]                     ` <525CB337.8050105-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-18  9:34                       ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                         ` <CA+SBX_Ogo8HP81o+vrJ8ozSBN6gPwzc8WNOV3Uya=4AYv+CCyQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-18  9:57                           ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                             ` <CA+SBX_OJBbYzrNX5Mi4rmM2SANShXMmAvuPGczAyBdx8F2hBDQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30  8:14                               ` Li Zefan
     [not found]                                 ` <5270BFE7.4000602-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31  2:09                                   ` Hugh Dickins
     [not found]                                     ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1310301606080.2333-fupSdm12i1nKWymIFiNcPA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 17:06                                       ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]                                         ` <20131031130647.0ff6f2c7-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 21:46                                           ` Hugh Dickins
     [not found]                                             ` <alpine.LNX.2.00.1310311442030.2633-fupSdm12i1nKWymIFiNcPA@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-31 23:27                                               ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]                                                 ` <20131031192732.2dbb14b3-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-01  1:33                                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2013-11-04 11:00                                                   ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                     ` <CA+SBX_NjAYrqqOpSuCy8Wpj6q1hE_qdLrRV6auydmJjdcHKQHg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04 12:29                                                       ` Li Zefan
     [not found]                                                         ` <5277932C.40400-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-04 13:43                                                           ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                         ` <CA+SBX_ORkOzDynKKweg=JomY2+1kz4=FXYJXYMsN8LKf48idBg@mail.gmail. com>
     [not found]                                                           ` <CA+SBX_ORkOzDynKKweg=JomY2+1kz4=FXYJXYMsN8LKf48idBg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-05  9:01                                                             ` Li Zefan
     [not found]                                                               ` <5278B3F1.9040502-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-07 23:53                                                                 ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20131107235301.GB1092-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08  0:14                                                                     ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20131108001437.GC1092-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08  8:36                                                                         ` Li Zefan
     [not found]                                                                           ` <527CA292.7090104-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-08 13:34                                                                             ` Johannes Weiner
2013-11-08 10:20                                                                         ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                                           ` <CA+SBX_P6wzmb0k0qM1m06C_1024ZTfYZOs0axLBBJm46X+osqA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 15:39                                                                             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20131111153943.GA22384-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-11 16:11                                                                                 ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <CA+SBX_PiRoL7HU-C_wXHjHYduYrbTjO3i6_OoHOJ_Mq+sMZStg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 13:58                                                                                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <20131112135844.GA6049-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 19:33                                                                                         ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <CA+SBX_MWM1iU7kyT5Ct3OJ7S3oMgbz_EWbFH1dGae+r_UnDxOA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13  1:51                                                                                             ` Li Zefan
2013-11-13 16:31                                                                                         ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <CA+SBX_O4oK1H7Gtb5OFYSn_W3Gz+d-YqF7OmM3mOrRTp6x3pvw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <CA+SBX_O4oK1H7Gtb5OFYSn_W3Gz+d-YqF7OmM3mOrRTp6x3pvw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18  9:45                                                                                           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                                             ` <20131118094554.GA32623-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 14:31                                                                                               ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                                                                 ` <CA+SBX_PqdsG5LBQ1uLpPsSUsbjF8TJ+ok4E+Hp_3AdHf+_5e-A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 19:16                                                                                                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                                                     ` <20131118191655.GB12923-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 15:59                                                                                                       ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                                                                         ` <CA+SBX_OeGCr5oDbF0n7jSLu-TTY9xpqc=LYp_=18qFYHB-nBdg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 16:45                                                                                                           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                                                             ` <CA+SBX_PDuU7roist-rQ136Jhx1pr-Nt-r=ULdghJFNHsMWwLrg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                                                                               ` <CA+SBX_PDuU7roist-rQ136Jhx1pr-Nt-r=ULdghJFNHsMWwLrg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-22 14:50                                                                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                                                                   ` <20131122145033.GE25406-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-25 14:03                                                                                                                     ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                                                                                       ` <CA+SBX_O_+WbZGUJ_tw_EWPaSfrWbTgQu8=GpGpqm0sizmmP=cA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-26 15:21                                                                                                                         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                                                                           ` <20131126152124.GC32639-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-26 21:05                                                                                                                             ` Markus Blank-Burian
     [not found]                                                                                                                               ` <CA+SBX_Mb0EwvmaejqoW4mtYbiOTV6yV3VrLH7=s0wX-6rH7yDA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-28 17:05                                                                                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                                                                                   ` <20131128170536.GA17411-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-29  8:33                                                                                                                                     ` Markus Blank-Burian
2013-11-26 21:47                                                                                                                             ` Markus Blank-Burian
2013-11-13 15:17                                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2013-11-18 10:30                                                                         ` William Dauchy
     [not found]                                                                           ` <CAJ75kXamrtQz5-cYS7tYtYeP1ZLf2pzSE7UnEPpyORzpG3BASg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 16:43                                                                             ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20131118164308.GD3556-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 11:16                                                                                 ` William Dauchy
2013-11-11 15:31                                                                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20131111153148.GC14497-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 14:58                                                                         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20131112145824.GC6049-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13  3:38                                                                             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20131113033840.GC19394-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 11:01                                                                                 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20131113110108.GA22131-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 13:23                                                                                     ` [RFC] memcg: fix race between css_offline and async charge (was: Re: Possible regression with cgroups in 3.11) Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <20131113132337.GB22131-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 14:54                                                                                         ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <20131113145427.GG707-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 15:13                                                                                             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                                               ` <20131113151339.GC22131-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 15:30                                                                                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-11-13  3:28                                               ` Possible regression with cgroups in 3.11 Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                 ` <20131113032804.GB19394-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13  7:38                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-16  0:28                                                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]                                                       ` <20131116002820.GA31073-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-16  4:53                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2013-11-18 18:14                                                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]                                                             ` <20131118181440.GA2996-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-18 19:29                                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-18 20:39                                                                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20131118203925.GA26682-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21  4:26                                                                     ` Sasha Levin
     [not found]                                                                       ` <528D8B6A.40008-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21  4:47                                                                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]                                                                           ` <CAErSpo4bXfVbxcJ6-LcByDRX25DSa8Pa+9dLtcaW631YK88Gcw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-25 21:57                                                                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-10-15  3:47                   ` Li Zefan
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2013-10-10  8:49 Markus Blank-Burian

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