From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 7/8] mm, memcg: allow processes handling oom notifications to access reserves
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 21:50:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131205025026.GA26777@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1312041742560.20115@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
Hello,
On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 05:49:04PM -0800, David Rientjes wrote:
> That's not what this series is addressing, though, and in fact it's quite
> the opposite. It acknowledges that userspace oom handlers need to
> allocate and that anything else would be too difficult to maintain
> (thereby agreeing with the above), so we must set aside memory that they
> are exclusively allowed to access. For the vast majority of users who
> will not use userspace oom handlers, they can just use the default value
> of memory.oom_reserve_in_bytes == 0 and they incur absolutely no side-
> effects as a result of this series.
Umm.. without delving into details, aren't you basically creating a
memory cgroup inside a memory cgroup? Doesn't sound like a
particularly well thought-out plan to me.
> For those who do use userspace oom handlers, like Google, this allows us
> to set aside memory to allow the userspace oom handlers to kill a process,
> dump the heap, send a signal, drop caches, etc. when waking up.
Seems kinda obvious. Put it in a separate cgroup? You're basically
saying it doesn't want to be under the same memory limit as the
processes that it's looking over. That's like the definition of being
in a different cgroup.
Thanks.
--
tejun
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1311192352070.20752@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
[not found] ` <20131120152251.GA18809@dhcp22.suse.cz>
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1311201917520.7167@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
[not found] ` <20131128115458.GK2761@dhcp22.suse.cz>
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1312021504170.13465@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
2013-12-04 5:19 ` [patch 1/8] fork: collapse copy_flags into copy_process David Rientjes
2013-12-04 5:19 ` [patch 2/8] mm, mempolicy: rename slab_node for clarity David Rientjes
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1312032117330.29733-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-04 15:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-12-04 5:20 ` [patch 3/8] mm, mempolicy: remove per-process flag David Rientjes
2013-12-04 15:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-12-05 0:53 ` David Rientjes
2013-12-05 19:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-12-05 23:53 ` David Rientjes
2013-12-06 14:46 ` Christoph Lameter
2013-12-04 5:20 ` [patch 4/8] mm, memcg: add tunable for oom reserves David Rientjes
2013-12-04 5:20 ` [patch 5/8] res_counter: remove interface for locked charging and uncharging David Rientjes
2013-12-04 5:20 ` [patch 6/8] res_counter: add interface for maximum nofail charge David Rientjes
2013-12-04 5:20 ` [patch 7/8] mm, memcg: allow processes handling oom notifications to access reserves David Rientjes
2013-12-04 5:45 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-12-05 1:49 ` David Rientjes
2013-12-05 2:50 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
[not found] ` <20131205025026.GA26777-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-05 23:49 ` David Rientjes
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1312051537550.7717-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-06 17:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-12-07 16:38 ` Tim Hockin
2013-12-07 17:40 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-12-07 18:12 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwvanMiz8QZVOU0-SUKYzqcaJAXn0HxYs5+=Zakmnbcfbg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-07 19:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-12-07 21:04 ` Tim Hockin
2013-12-06 19:01 ` Tejun Heo
2013-12-09 20:10 ` David Rientjes
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1312061441390.8949-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-09 22:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2013-12-10 21:50 ` Tejun Heo
2013-12-10 23:55 ` David Rientjes
2013-12-11 9:49 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-11 12:42 ` Tejun Heo
2013-12-12 5:37 ` Tim Hockin
2013-12-12 14:21 ` Tejun Heo
2013-12-12 16:32 ` Michal Hocko
2013-12-12 16:37 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20131212142156.GB32683-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-12-12 18:42 ` Tim Hockin
2013-12-12 19:23 ` Tejun Heo
2013-12-13 0:23 ` Tim Hockin
2013-12-13 11:47 ` Tejun Heo
2013-12-04 5:20 ` [patch 8/8] mm, memcg: add memcg oom reserve documentation David Rientjes
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