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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: paolo <paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Fabio Checconi
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	Arianna Avanzini
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	Paolo Valente <posta_paolo-whZMOeQn8C0@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
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	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC RESEND 00/14] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler
Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 13:59:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140530175937.GK24871@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140530175527.GH16605-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hey, Vivek.

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 01:55:27PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> Now CFQ also dynamically adjusts the slice length based on the how
> many queues are ready to do IO. One problem with fixed slice lenth
> round robin was that if there are lot of queues doing IO, then after
> serving one queue, same queue will get time slice after a long time.
> 
> Corrado Zoccolo did work in this area in an attempt to improve latency.
> Now slice length is calculated dynamically in an attempt to achieve
> better latency.

Consdier it a better version of that.

> Ok, so you prefer to have another IO scheduler instead of improving
> CFQ?

As I wrote in another reply, I think the best approach would be
morphing cfq to accomodate the scheduling algorithm and heristics of
bfq.

> Tejun, I have spent significant amount of time on BFQ few years ago. And
> that's the reason I have not read it again yet. My understanding was
> that there was nothing which would not be done in CFQ (atleast things
> which mattered).

THERE IS A NEW PAPER.

> Looks like you prefer introducing a new scheduler instead of improving
> CFQ. My preference is to improve CFQ. Borrow good ideas from BFQ and
> implement them in CFQ.

LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE NOT READING ANYTHING AND JUST WRITING IRRELEVANT
SHIT.

> So why not improve CFQ instead of carrying and maintaining another 
> scheduler. And then have a discussion that what's the default scheduler.

For fuck's sake, I'm out.  This is total waste of time.  You don't
read what others are writing and refuse to study what's right there.
What are you doing?

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-30 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-27 12:42 [PATCH RFC RESEND 00/14] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler paolo
     [not found] ` <1401194558-5283-1-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 01/14] block: kconfig update and build bits for BFQ paolo
     [not found]     ` <1401194558-5283-2-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-28 22:19       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20140528221929.GG1419-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29  9:05           ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler Paolo Valente
     [not found]             ` <1401354343-5527-1-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 01/12] block: introduce the BFQ-v0 I/O scheduler Paolo Valente
     [not found]                 ` <1401354343-5527-2-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 15:36                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 02/12] block, bfq: add full hierarchical scheduling and cgroups support Paolo Valente
     [not found]                 ` <1401354343-5527-3-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 15:37                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20140530153718.GB24871-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 15:39                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20140530153943.GC24871-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 21:49                           ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 21:49                       ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 03/12] block, bfq: improve throughput boosting Paolo Valente
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 04/12] block, bfq: modify the peak-rate estimator Paolo Valente
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 05/12] block, bfq: add more fairness to boost throughput and reduce latency Paolo Valente
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 07/12] block, bfq: reduce I/O latency for soft real-time applications Paolo Valente
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 08/12] block, bfq: preserve a low latency also with NCQ-capable drives Paolo Valente
     [not found]                 ` <1401354343-5527-9-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-31 13:48                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20140531134823.GB24557-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02  9:58                       ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 10/12] block, bfq: add Early Queue Merge (EQM) Paolo Valente
     [not found]                 ` <1401354343-5527-11-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-01  0:03                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20140601000331.GA29085-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02  9:46                       ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                         ` <3B7B1A46-46EB-4C52-A52C-4F79C71D14C2-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-03 16:28                           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                             ` <20140603162844.GD26210-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 11:47                               ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-04 13:04                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                   ` <20140604130446.GA5004-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 11:23                                     ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 11/12] block, bfq: boost the throughput on NCQ-capable flash-based devices Paolo Valente
     [not found]                 ` <1401354343-5527-12-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 15:46                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20140530154654.GE24871-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 22:01                       ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-31 11:52                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20140531115216.GB5057-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02  9:26                       ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                         ` <36BFDB73-AEC2-4B87-9FD6-205E9431E722-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-03 17:11                           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                             ` <20140603171124.GE26210-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04  7:29                               ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                                 ` <03CDD106-DB18-4E8F-B3D6-2AAD45782A06-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 13:56                                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                     ` <20140604135627.GB5004-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-16 10:46                                       ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                                         ` <D163E069-ED77-4BF5-A488-9A90C41C60C1-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-19  1:14                                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-29  9:05               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 12/12] block, bfq: boost the throughput with random I/O on NCQ-capable HDDs Paolo Valente
     [not found]                 ` <1401354343-5527-13-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 15:51                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-31 13:34                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-30 16:07               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20140530160712.GG24871-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 22:23                   ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                     ` <464F6CBE-A63E-46EF-A90D-BF8450430444-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 23:28                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20140530232804.GA5057-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 23:54                           ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-02 11:14                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                             ` <20140602111432.GA3737-tWAi6jLit6GreWDznjuHag@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 13:02                               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                 ` <20140602130226.GA14654-tWAi6jLit6GreWDznjuHag@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-03 16:54                                   ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                                     ` <FCFE0106-A4DD-4DEF-AAAE-040F3823A447-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-03 20:40                                       ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-04  8:39                                       ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-04  9:08                                       ` Pavel Machek
2014-06-04 10:03                                       ` BFQ speed tests [was Re: [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler] Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                         ` <20140604100358.GA4799-tWAi6jLit6GreWDznjuHag@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 10:24                                           ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                                             ` <4888F93F-D58D-48DD-81A6-A6D61C452D92-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 11:59                                               ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                                                 ` <s5hsink3mxk.wl%tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 12:12                                                   ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-11 20:45                                                   ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                                                     ` <6A4905B2-ACAA-419D-9C83-659BE9A5B20B-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-13 16:21                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2014-06-11 20:39                                           ` Paolo Valente
2014-06-02 17:33                               ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 00/12] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                 ` <20140602173332.GB8912-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-03  4:12                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-06-04 22:31                                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                     ` <20140604223152.GA7881-tWAi6jLit6GreWDznjuHag@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-05  2:14                                       ` Jens Axboe
2014-05-31  0:48                   ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                     ` <538926F6.7080409-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-31  5:16                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20140531051635.GA19925-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 14:29                           ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                             ` <538C8A47.1050502-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 17:24                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                 ` <20140602172454.GA8912-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 17:32                                   ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                                     ` <538CB515.3090700-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 17:42                                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                         ` <20140602174250.GC8912-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 17:46                                           ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                                             ` <538CB87C.7030600-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 18:51                                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                 ` <20140602185138.GD8912-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02 20:57                                                   ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                                                     ` <20140602205713.GB8357-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 14:31                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                                         ` <20140604143136.GA1920-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 14:50                                                           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                             ` <20140604145053.GE5004-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 14:53                                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20140604145330.GA2955-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 14:58                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20140604145829.GF5004-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-04 17:51                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-06-17 15:55                               ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                                 ` <0A5218F8-0215-4B4F-959B-EE5AAEFC164A-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-19  1:46                                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                     ` <20140619014600.GA20100-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-19  1:49                                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-06-19  2:29                                       ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                                         ` <53A24B1C.1070004-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-23 13:53                                           ` Paolo Valente
     [not found]                                             ` <8F719638-0CD7-4BD2-8F4F-088913A0EE2D-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-23 19:20                                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                 ` <20140623192022.GA19660-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-07-09 20:54                                                   ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-29  9:05             ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 06/12] block, bfq: improve responsiveness Paolo Valente
     [not found]               ` <1401354343-5527-7-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 15:41                 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-29  9:05             ` [PATCH RFC - TAKE TWO - 09/12] block, bfq: reduce latency during request-pool saturation Paolo Valente
     [not found]               ` <1401354343-5527-10-git-send-email-paolo.valente-rcYM44yAMweonA0d6jMUrA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-31 13:54                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <20140531135402.GC24557-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-06-02  9:54                     ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 02/14] block: introduce the BFQ-v0 I/O scheduler paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 03/14] block: add hierarchical-support option to kconfig paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 04/14] block, bfq: add full hierarchical scheduling and cgroups support paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 05/14] block, bfq: improve throughput boosting paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 06/14] block, bfq: modify the peak-rate estimator paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 07/14] block, bfq: add more fairness to boost throughput and reduce latency paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 08/14] block, bfq: improve responsiveness paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 09/14] block, bfq: reduce I/O latency for soft real-time applications paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 10/14] block, bfq: preserve a low latency also with NCQ-capable drives paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 11/14] block, bfq: reduce latency during request-pool saturation paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 13/14] block, bfq: boost the throughput on NCQ-capable flash-based devices paolo
2014-05-27 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 14/14] block, bfq: boost the throughput with random I/O on NCQ-capable HDDs paolo
2014-05-30 15:32   ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 00/14] New version of the BFQ I/O Scheduler Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <20140530153228.GE16605-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 16:16       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20140530161650.GH24871-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 17:09           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20140530170958.GF16605-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 17:26               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20140530172609.GI24871-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 17:55                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                     ` <20140530175527.GH16605-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 17:59                       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2014-05-30 23:33               ` Paolo Valente
2014-05-30 17:31   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <20140530173146.GG16605-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-30 17:39       ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-27 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC RESEND 12/14] block, bfq: add Early Queue Merge (EQM) paolo

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