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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Vladimir Davydov
	<vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave-gkUM19QKKo4@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm: memcontrol: lockless page counters
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:33:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140924133316.GA4558@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140923170525.GA28460-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>

On Tue 23-09-14 13:05:25, Johannes Weiner wrote:
[...]
> How about the following update?  Don't be thrown by the
> page_counter_cancel(), I went back to it until we find something more
> suitable.  But as long as it's documented and has only 1.5 callsites,
> it shouldn't matter all that much TBH.
> 
> Thanks for your invaluable feedback so far, and sorry if the original
> patch was hard to review.  I'll try to break it up, to me it's usually
> easier to verify new functions by looking at the callers in the same
> patch, but I can probably remove the res_counter in a follow-up patch.

The original patch was really huge and rather hard to review. Having
res_counter removal in a separate patch would be definitely helpful.
I would even lobby to have the new page_counter in a separate patch with
the detailed description of the semantic and expected usage. Lockless
schemes are always tricky and hard to review.

[...]
> @@ -98,37 +121,44 @@ int page_counter_try_charge(struct page_counter *counter,
>  	struct page_counter *c;
>  
>  	for (c = counter; c; c = c->parent) {
> -		for (;;) {
> -			long count;
> -			long new;
> -
> -			count = atomic_long_read(&c->count);
> -
> -			new = count + nr_pages;
> -			if (new > c->limit) {
> -				c->failcnt++;
> -				*fail = c;
> -				goto failed;
> -			}
> -
> -			if (atomic_long_cmpxchg(&c->count, count, new) != count)
> -				continue;
> -
> -			if (new > c->watermark)
> -				c->watermark = new;
> +		long new;
>  
> -			break;
> +		new = atomic_long_add_return(nr_pages, &c->count);
> +		if (new > c->limit) {
> +			atomic_long_sub(nr_pages, &c->count);
> +			/*
> +			 * This is racy, but the failcnt is only a
> +			 * ballpark metric anyway.
> +			 */
> +			c->failcnt++;
> +			*fail = c;
> +			goto failed;
>  		}

I like this much more because the retry loop might lead to starvation.
As you pointed out in the other email this implementation might lead
to premature reclaim but I would find the former issue more probable
because it might happen even when we are far away from the limit (e.g.
in unlimited - root - memcg).

> +		/*
> +		 * This is racy, but with the per-cpu caches on top
> +		 * this is a ballpark metric as well, and with lazy
> +		 * cache reclaim, the majority of workloads peg the
> +		 * watermark to the group limit soon after launch.
> +		 */
> +		if (new > c->watermark)
> +			c->watermark = new;
>  	}
>  	return 0;

Btw. are you planning to post another version (possibly split up)
anytime soon so it would make sense to wait for it or should I continue
with this version?

Thanks!
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-24 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-19 13:22 [patch] mm: memcontrol: lockless page counters Johannes Weiner
2014-09-19 13:29 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-22 14:41 ` Vladimir Davydov
2014-09-22 18:57   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]     ` <20140922185736.GB6630-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-23 11:06       ` Vladimir Davydov
2014-09-23 13:28         ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]           ` <20140923132801.GA14302-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-23 15:21             ` Vladimir Davydov
2014-09-23 17:05               ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-24  8:02                 ` Vladimir Davydov
     [not found]                 ` <20140923170525.GA28460-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-24 13:33                   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2014-09-24 16:51                     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-24 14:16                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-24 17:00                   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-25 13:07                     ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-22 14:44 ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-22 15:50   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-09-22 17:28     ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-22 19:58       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]         ` <20140922195829.GA5197-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-23 13:25           ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-23 14:05             ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]               ` <20140923140526.GA15014-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-23 14:28                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-09-23 22:33                   ` David Rientjes
2014-09-23  7:46 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki

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