From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Relax a restriction in sched_rt_can_attach() Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 10:49:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20150506084906.GW23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <1430717964.3129.62.camel@gmail.com> <554737AE.5040402@huawei.com> <20150504123738.GZ21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <55483EF7.7070905@huawei.com> <20150505141049.GN21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150505141838.GR1971@htj.duckdns.org> <20150505151949.GQ21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150505163112.GU1971@htj.duckdns.org> <20150505190057.GR23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150505190603.GZ1971@htj.duckdns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150505190603.GZ1971-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org> Sender: cgroups-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Tejun Heo Cc: Zefan Li , Mike Galbraith , Ingo Molnar , LKML , Cgroups On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 03:06:03PM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote: > Hello, Peter. > > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 09:00:57PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:31:12PM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote: > > > What I don't want to happen is controllers failing migrations > > > willy-nilly for random reasons leaving users baffled, which we've > > > actually been doing unfortunately. Maybe we need to deal with this > > > fixed resource arbitration as a separate class and allow them to fail > > > migration w/ -EBUSY. > > > > Ah, _that_ was the problem. > > > > Which is something created by this co-mounting of controllers. > > Yeah, partly, but also that it's an extra failure mode which isn't > necessary for most controllers. I can agree with reducing failure modes, but we should not do it at the cost of functionality. > > You could of course store the ss-id of the failing operation in > > task_struct and have a file reporting the name of the ss-id. > > > > That way, there is a simple way to find out which controller failed the > > migrate. > > Given that the resources which can fail are very limited, I don't > think we need that right now as long as we limit and document the > possible failure cases clearly. Hopefully, this won't devolve into > collection of arbitrary failures. Right, but something like that would be fairly trivial to implement and would give immediate resolution. For example: $ echo 123 > /cgroups/monkey/business/tasks -EBUSY $ cat /cgroups/monkey/business/errno cpu:-EBUSY (in fact, for a trivial implementation it doesn't matter which cgroup/errno you cat)