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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim-Hm3cg6mZ9cc@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] gfp: add __GFP_NOACCOUNT
Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 14:35:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150506123541.GK14550@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150506122431.GA29387@esperanza>

On Wed 06-05-15 15:24:31, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 01:59:41PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 05-05-15 12:45:42, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > > Not all kmem allocations should be accounted to memcg. The following
> > > patch gives an example when accounting of a certain type of allocations
> > > to memcg can effectively result in a memory leak.
> > 
> > > This patch adds the __GFP_NOACCOUNT flag which if passed to kmalloc
> > > and friends will force the allocation to go through the root
> > > cgroup. It will be used by the next patch.
> > 
> > The name of the flag is way too generic. It is not clear that the
> > accounting is KMEMCG related. __GFP_NO_KMEMCG sounds better?
> > 
> > I was going to suggest doing per-cache rather than gfp flag and that
> > would actually work just fine for the kmemleak as it uses its own cache
> > already. But the ida_simple_get would be trickier because it doesn't use
> > any special cache and more over only one user seem to have a problem so
> > this doesn't sound like a good fit.
> 
> I don't think making this flag per-cache is an option either, but for
> another reason - it would not be possible to merge such a kmem cache
> with caches without this flag set. As a result, total memory pressure
> would increase, even for setups without kmem-active memory cgroups,
> which does not sound acceptable to me.

I am not sure I see the performance implications here because kmem
accounted memcgs would have their copy of the cache anyway, no?
Anyway, I guess it would be good to document these reasons in the
changelog.
 
> > So I do not object to opt-out for kmemcg accounting but I really think
> > the name should be changed.
> 
> I named it __GFP_NOACCOUNT to match with __GFP_NOTRACK, which is a very
> specific flag too (kmemcheck),  nevertheless it has a rather generic
> name.

__GFP_NOTRACK is a bad name IMHO as well. One has to go and check the
comment to see this is kmemleak related.

> Anyways, what else apart from memcg can account kmem so that we have to
> mention KMEMCG in the flag name explicitly?

NOACCOUNT doesn't imply kmem at all so it is not clear who is in charge
of the accounting. I do not insist on __GFP_NO_KMEMCG of course but
it sounds quite specific about its meaning and scope.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-06 12:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-05  9:45 [PATCH 1/2] gfp: add __GFP_NOACCOUNT Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 11:59 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]   ` <20150506115941.GH14550-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 12:24     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 12:35       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-05-06 13:25         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 13:55           ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-06 14:29             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 14:46               ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-06 13:16     ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]       ` <20150506131622.GA4629-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-06 13:46         ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-06 15:00           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <fdf631b3fa95567a830ea4f3e19d0b3b2fc99662.1430819044.git.vdavydov-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-05  9:45   ` [PATCH 2/2] kernfs: do not account ino_ida allocations to memcg Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-05 13:45     ` Tejun Heo
2015-05-05 16:04       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 14:58   ` [PATCH 1/2] gfp: add __GFP_NOACCOUNT Michal Hocko
2015-05-06 16:35     ` [PATCH v2] " Vladimir Davydov
2015-05-06 17:52     ` [PATCH 1/2] " Johannes Weiner

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