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From: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Li Zefan" <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner"
	<hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	"Mike Galbraith" <efault-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>,
	"Stéphane Graber"
	<stgraber-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Serge Hallyn" <serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] cpuset: Enable cpuset controller in default hierarchy
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 22:59:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171026205915.ztcc3yg7wzemlbzw@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2814be69-8dc1-b2f8-406e-cc4dda289d94-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 02:12:01PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 10/26/2017 10:39 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello, Waiman.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:50:34AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> >> Ping! Any comment on this patch?

Fwiw, I just saw this patch today for some weird reason.

> > Sorry about the lack of response.  Here are my two thoughts.
> >
> > 1. I'm not really sure about the memory part.  Mostly because of the
> >    way it's configured and enforced is completely out of step with how
> >    mm behaves in general.  I'd like to get more input from mm folks on
> >    this.
> 
> Yes, I also have doubt about which of the additional features are being
> actively used. That is why the current patch exposes only the memory_migrate
> flag in addition to the core *cpus and *mems control files. All the
> other v1 features are not exposed waiting for further investigation and
> feedback. One way to get more feedback is to have something that people
> can play with. Maybe we could somehow tag it as experimental so that we
> can change the interface later on, when necessary, if you have concern
> about setting the APIs in stone.

This sounds like a reasonable approach to me. The cpuset controller is quite
important from a userspace (especially container) perspective. So making this
an experimental feature for a while to gather feedback seems worth it. I'd be
happy to carry/receive some experimental patches in a liblxc branch for cgroup
v2 to see where the current cpuset controller implementation currently gets us
and send/discuss patches where needed.

> 
> > 2. I want to think more about how we expose the effective settings.
> >    Not that anything is wrong with what cpuset does, but more that I
> >    wanna ensure that it's something we can follow in other cases where
> >    we have similar hierarchical property propagation.
> 
> Currently, the effective setting is exposed via the effective_cpus and
> effective_mems control files. Unlike other controllers that control
> resources, cpuset is unique in the sense that it is propagating
> hierarchical constraints on CPUs and memory nodes down the tree. I
> understand your desire to have a unified framework that can be applied
> to most controllers, but I doubt cpuset is a good model in this regard.
> 
> Cheers,
> Longman
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-26 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-06 21:10 [PATCH v3] cpuset: Enable cpuset controller in default hierarchy Waiman Long
2017-10-25 15:50 ` Waiman Long
2017-10-26 14:39   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <20171026143908.GD59538-4dN5La/x3IkLX0oZNxdnEQ2O0Ztt9esIQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-26 18:12       ` Waiman Long
     [not found]         ` <2814be69-8dc1-b2f8-406e-cc4dda289d94-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-26 20:59           ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2017-11-14 17:49         ` Waiman Long
     [not found] ` <1507324230-22996-1-git-send-email-longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-27 21:04   ` Tejun Heo
2017-11-27 21:19     ` Waiman Long
     [not found]       ` <8a5ba419-2b02-5b6a-462f-34106cc575ab-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-27 21:42         ` Tejun Heo
2017-11-27 21:47           ` Waiman Long

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