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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alex Shi <alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v20 08/20] mm: page_idle_get_page() does not need lru_lock
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 12:46:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201104174603.GB744831@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4038b87-cf5a-fcb7-06f4-b98874029615-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 07:27:21PM +0800, Alex Shi wrote:
> 在 2020/11/3 上午4:20, Johannes Weiner 写道:
> > On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 02:49:27PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 09:41:10AM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:44:53PM +0800, Alex Shi wrote:
> >>>> From: Hugh Dickins <hughd-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> >>>>
> >>>> It is necessary for page_idle_get_page() to recheck PageLRU() after
> >>>> get_page_unless_zero(), but holding lru_lock around that serves no
> >>>> useful purpose, and adds to lru_lock contention: delete it.
> >>>>
> >>>> See https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20150504031722.GA2768@blaptop for the
> >>>> discussion that led to lru_lock there; but __page_set_anon_rmap() now
> >>>> uses WRITE_ONCE(),
> >>>
> >>> That doesn't seem to be the case in Linus's or Andrew's tree. Am I
> >>> missing a dependent patch series?
> >>>
> >>>> and I see no other risk in page_idle_clear_pte_refs() using
> >>>> rmap_walk() (beyond the risk of racing PageAnon->PageKsm, mostly but
> >>>> not entirely prevented by page_count() check in ksm.c's
> >>>> write_protect_page(): that risk being shared with page_referenced()
> >>>> and not helped by lru_lock).
> >>>
> >>> Isn't it possible, as per Minchan's description, for page->mapping to
> >>> point to a struct anon_vma without PAGE_MAPPING_ANON set, and rmap
> >>> thinking it's looking at a struct address_space?
> >>
> >> I don't think it can point to an anon_vma without the ANON bit set.
> >> Minchan's concern in that email was that it might still be NULL.
> > 
> > Hm, no, the thread is a lengthy discussion about whether the store
> > could be split such that page->mapping is actually pointing to
> > something invalid (anon_vma without the PageAnon bit).
> > 
> > From his email:
> > 
> >         CPU 0                                                                           CPU 1
> > 
> > do_anonymous_page
> >   __page_set_anon_rmap
> >   /* out of order happened so SetPageLRU is done ahead */
> >   SetPageLRU(page)
> 
> This SetPageLRU done in __pagevec_lru_add_fn() which under the lru_lock
> protection, so the original memory barrier or lock concern isn't
> correct. that means, the SetPageLRU isn't possible to be here.
> And then no warry on right side 'CPU 1' problem.

The SetPageLRU is done under lru_lock, but the store to page->mapping
is not, so what ensures ordering between them? And what prevents the
compiler from tearing the store to page->mapping?

The writer does this:

	CPU 0
	page_add_new_anon_rmap()
	  page->mapping = anon_vma + PAGE_MAPPING_ANON
	lru_cache_add_inactive_or_unevictable()
	  spin_lock(lruvec->lock)
	  SetPageLRU()
	  spin_unlock(lruvec->lock)

The concern is what CPU 1 will observe at page->mapping after
observing PageLRU set on the page.

1. anon_vma + PAGE_MAPPING_ANON

   That's the in-order scenario and is fine.

2. NULL

   That's possible if the page->mapping store gets reordered to occur
   after SetPageLRU. That's fine too because we check for it.

3. anon_vma without the PAGE_MAPPING_ANON bit

   That would be a problem and could lead to all kinds of undesirable
   behavior including crashes and data corruption.

   Is it possible? AFAICT the compiler is allowed to tear the store to
   page->mapping and I don't see anything that would prevent it.

That said, I also don't see how the reader testing PageLRU under the
lru_lock would prevent that in the first place. AFAICT we need that
WRITE_ONCE() around the page->mapping assignment that's referenced in
the changelog of this patch but I cannot find in any tree or patch.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-04 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-29 10:44 [PATCH v20 00/20] per memcg lru lock Alex Shi
     [not found] ` <1603968305-8026-1-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-10-29 10:44   ` [PATCH v20 01/20] mm/memcg: warning on !memcg after readahead page charged Alex Shi
2020-10-29 13:43     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44   ` [PATCH v20 02/20] mm/memcg: bail early from swap accounting if memcg disabled Alex Shi
2020-10-29 13:46     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-30  2:27       ` Alex Shi
     [not found]         ` <96b6d122-df0e-dfb0-368c-6bd714fab116-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-10-30 14:04           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]             ` <20201030140420.GB666074-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-10-31  1:13               ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` [PATCH v20 03/20] mm/thp: move lru_add_page_tail func to huge_memory.c Alex Shi
2020-10-29 13:47     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44   ` [PATCH v20 07/20] mm/vmscan: remove unnecessary lruvec adding Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:20     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44   ` [PATCH v20 10/20] mm/swap.c: fold vm event PGROTATED into pagevec_move_tail_fn Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:48     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44   ` [PATCH v20 12/20] mm/vmscan: remove lruvec reget in move_pages_to_lru Alex Shi
     [not found]     ` <1603968305-8026-13-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 14:52       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]         ` <20201102145220.GE724984-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-03  2:51           ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44   ` [PATCH v20 14/20] mm/mlock: remove __munlock_isolate_lru_page Alex Shi
     [not found]     ` <1603968305-8026-15-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 14:56       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:45   ` [PATCH v20 15/20] mm/lru: introduce TestClearPageLRU Alex Shi
2020-11-02 15:10     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-03  3:02       ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:45   ` [PATCH v20 16/20] mm/compaction: do page isolation first in compaction Alex Shi
     [not found]     ` <1603968305-8026-17-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 15:18       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-04 11:55   ` [PATCH v20 00/20] per memcg lru lock Alex Shi
     [not found]     ` <811216d4-4972-4721-d6b9-1028c02f4290-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-04 16:59       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]         ` <20201104165935.GA744831-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-05  5:07           ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 04/20] mm/thp: use head for head page in lru_add_page_tail Alex Shi
     [not found]   ` <1603968305-8026-5-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-10-29 13:50     ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]       ` <20201029135047.GE599825-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-10-30  2:46         ` Alex Shi
     [not found]           ` <06a5b7d8-bbf2-51b7-1352-2b630186e15f-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-10-30 13:52             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-31  1:14               ` Alex Shi
2020-11-02 16:03           ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]             ` <20201102160357.GP27442-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-03  2:43               ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 05/20] mm/thp: Simplify lru_add_page_tail() Alex Shi
2020-10-29 14:00   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-30  2:48   ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 06/20] mm/thp: narrow lru locking Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 08/20] mm: page_idle_get_page() does not need lru_lock Alex Shi
2020-11-02 14:41   ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]     ` <20201102144110.GB724984-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 14:49       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-02 20:20         ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]           ` <20201102202003.GA740958-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-04 11:27             ` Alex Shi
     [not found]               ` <b4038b87-cf5a-fcb7-06f4-b98874029615-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-04 17:46                 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2020-11-05  4:52                   ` Alex Shi
     [not found]                     ` <6eea82d8-e406-06ee-2333-eb6e2f1944e5-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-05  4:57                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-05  5:03                         ` Alex Shi
     [not found]                           ` <1e8f0162-cf2e-03eb-e7e0-ccc9f6a3eaf2-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-05 15:36                             ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                               ` <20201105153649.GC744831-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-05 15:43                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-11-06  1:11                                 ` Alex Shi
2020-11-11  7:27     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 09/20] mm/memcg: add debug checking in lock_page_memcg Alex Shi
     [not found]   ` <1603968305-8026-10-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 14:45     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 11/20] mm/lru: move lock into lru_note_cost Alex Shi
     [not found]   ` <1603968305-8026-12-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-10-29 13:42     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:44 ` [PATCH v20 13/20] mm/mlock: remove lru_lock on TestClearPageMlocked Alex Shi
     [not found]   ` <1603968305-8026-14-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 14:55     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 17/20] mm/swap.c: serialize memcg changes in pagevec_lru_move_fn Alex Shi
     [not found]   ` <1603968305-8026-18-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 15:20     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 18/20] mm/lru: replace pgdat lru_lock with lruvec lock Alex Shi
2020-10-30  2:49   ` Alex Shi
     [not found]     ` <ef279dfe-afa5-45cb-4013-6c34169ff55e-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 20:41       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-11-03  4:58         ` Alex Shi
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 19/20] mm/lru: introduce the relock_page_lruvec function Alex Shi
     [not found]   ` <1603968305-8026-20-git-send-email-alex.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 20:44     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-10-29 10:45 ` [PATCH v20 20/20] mm/lru: revise the comments of lru_lock Alex Shi
2020-11-02 20:46   ` Johannes Weiner

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