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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@openvz.org,
	"Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mm] vmalloc: back off when the current task is OOM-killed
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 11:55:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210921115523.8606cea0b2f0a5ca4e79cbd0@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9d43874-138e-54a9-3222-a08c269eeeb5@virtuozzo.com>

On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 13:59:35 +0300 Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com> wrote:

> On 9/20/21 4:22 AM, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > On 2021/09/20 8:31, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:06:49 +0300 Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Huge vmalloc allocation on heavy loaded node can lead to a global
> >>> memory shortage. A task called vmalloc can have the worst badness
> >>> and be chosen by OOM-killer, however received fatal signal and
> >>> oom victim mark does not interrupt allocation cycle. Vmalloc will
> >>> continue allocating pages over and over again, exacerbating the crisis
> >>> and consuming the memory freed up by another killed tasks.
> >>>
> >>> This patch allows OOM-killer to break vmalloc cycle, makes OOM more
> >>> effective and avoid host panic.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately it is not 100% safe. Previous attempt to break vmalloc
> >>> cycle was reverted by commit b8c8a338f75e ("Revert "vmalloc: back off when
> >>> the current task is killed"") due to some vmalloc callers did not handled
> >>> failures properly. Found issues was resolved, however, there may
> >>> be other similar places.
> >>
> >> Well that was lame of us.
> >>
> >> I believe that at least one of the kernel testbots can utilize fault
> >> injection.  If we were to wire up vmalloc (as we have done with slab
> >> and pagealloc) then this will help to locate such buggy vmalloc callers.
> 
> Andrew, could you please clarify how we can do it?
> Do you mean we can use exsiting allocation fault injection infrastructure to trigger
> such kind of issues? Unfortunately I found no ways to reach this goal.
> It  allows to emulate single faults with small probability, however it is not enough,
> we need to completely disable all vmalloc allocations. 

I don't see why there's a problem?  You're saying "there might still be
vmalloc() callers which don't correctly handle allocation failures",
yes?

I'm suggesting that we use fault injection to cause a small proportion
of vmalloc() calls to artificially fail, so such buggy callers will
eventually be found and fixed.  Why does such a scheme require that
*all* vmalloc() calls fail?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-21 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-10 12:39 [PATCH memcg] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
     [not found] ` <5b06a490-55bc-a6a0-6c85-690254f86fad-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-10 13:04   ` Tetsuo Handa
     [not found]     ` <099aa0db-045a-e5b8-6df7-b7c3fc4d3caa-1yMVhJb1mP/7nzcFbJAaVXf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-10 13:20       ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-10 14:55         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <YTtx3toUOMLXk4GZ-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-13  8:29             ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]               ` <9556c2ae-2dc8-9d0a-55de-002d674680bf-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-13  8:42                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                   ` <YT8PEBbYZhLixEJD-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-17  8:06                     ` [PATCH mm] vmalloc: back off when the current task is OOM-killed Vasily Averin
     [not found]                       ` <d07a5540-3e07-44ba-1e59-067500f024d9-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-19 23:31                         ` Andrew Morton
2021-09-20  1:22                           ` Tetsuo Handa
     [not found]                             ` <bb5616b0-faa6-e12a-102b-b9c402e27ec1-1yMVhJb1mP/7nzcFbJAaVXf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-20 10:59                               ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-21 18:55                                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2021-09-22  6:18                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-09-22 12:27                         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                           ` <YUsg4j8gEt+WOCzi-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-23  6:49                             ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]                               ` <fa29c6f9-a53c-83bd-adcb-1e09d4387024-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-24  7:55                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-27  9:36                                   ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]                                     ` <508abe37-a044-7180-ac67-b4ce5e4cc149-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-27 11:08                                       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                         ` <YVGmMSJ3NrQZjLP8-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2021-10-05 13:52                                           ` [PATCH mm v2] " Vasily Averin
     [not found]                                             ` <83efc664-3a65-2adb-d7c4-2885784cf109-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-10-05 14:00                                               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-07 10:47                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-07 19:55                                               ` Andrew Morton
2021-09-10 13:07   ` [PATCH memcg] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-09-13  7:51   ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]     ` <8b98d44a-aeb2-5f5f-2545-ac2bd0c7049b-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-13  8:39       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <YT8OTozT3FN9P2k7-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-13  9:37           ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]             ` <b4b1e66e-e6e6-84e9-46a1-060ed412dd56-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-13 10:10               ` Michal Hocko
2021-09-13  8:53 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]   ` <YT8RjxShvfEVe4YU-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-13 10:35     ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]       ` <7af26106-388c-6f99-e018-669a8f0cf9b5-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-13 10:55         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <YT8uGUMQ7K+/0gyA-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-14 10:01             ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]               ` <bab6c1d2-38d8-9098-206f-54894f9871b6-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-14 10:10                 ` [PATCH memcg v2] " Vasily Averin
     [not found]                   ` <817a6ce2-4da9-72ac-c5b9-edd398d28a15-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-09-16 12:55                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                       ` <YUM+saaJEce0TJyF-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2021-10-05 13:52                         ` [PATCH memcg v3] " Vasily Averin
     [not found]                           ` <b89715b5-6df7-34a3-f7b9-efa8e0eefd3e-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2021-10-05 14:55                             ` Michal Hocko

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