From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: async flush memcg stats from perf sensitive codepaths
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 18:57:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220301175703.GA10867@blackbody.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod7aF9xRc+XvY7GPN7OnDyPitt1H6Q4yrwzAXTFzv1LzWQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Making decisions based on up to 2 s old information.
On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 09:21:12AM -0800, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Without flushing the worst that can happen in the refault path is
> false (or missed) activations of the refaulted page.
Yeah, this may under- or overestimate workingset size (when it's
changing), the result is likely only less efficient reclaim.
> For reclaim code, some heuristics (like deactivating active LRU or
> cache-trim) may act on old information.
Here, I'd be more careful whether such a delay cannot introduce some
unstable behavior (permanent oscillation in the worst case).
> Now, coming to your question, yes, we can remove the flushing from
> these performance critical codepaths as the stats at most will be 2
> second old due to periodic flush.
Another aspect is that people will notice and report such a narrowly
located performance regression more easily than reduced/less predictable
reclaim behavior. (IMO the former is better, OTOH, it can also be
interpreted that noone notices (is able to notice).)
Michal
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-01 17:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-26 0:24 [PATCH] memcg: async flush memcg stats from perf sensitive codepaths Shakeel Butt
2022-02-26 0:58 ` Andrew Morton
2022-02-26 1:20 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20220225165842.561d3a475310aeab86a2d653-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2022-02-26 1:42 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-02-28 18:46 ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-28 22:46 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-02-26 2:32 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-26 12:43 ` kernel test robot
2022-03-01 9:05 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Yh3h33W45+YaMo92-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-03-01 17:21 ` Shakeel Butt
[not found] ` <CALvZod7aF9xRc+XvY7GPN7OnDyPitt1H6Q4yrwzAXTFzv1LzWQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-03-01 17:57 ` Michal Koutný [this message]
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