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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Dmitry Shmidt" <dimitrysh@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 3/3 cgroup/for-5.20] cgroup: Make !percpu threadgroup_rwsem operations optional
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 19:39:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220727173906.GB18822@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YuB1QW6Kce5nkBu6@slm.duckdns.org>

Hi Tejun,

On 07/26, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
> > __rcu_sync_enter(rsp, false) works just like rcu_sync_enter_start() but it can
> > be safely called at any moment.
>
> Yeah, I originally used rcu_sync_enter_start() but quickly found out that it
> can't be reverted reliably. Given how cold the option switching path is, I
> think it's fine to pay an extra synchronize_rcu() there rather than adding
> more complexity to rcu_sync_enter() unless this will be useful somewhere
> else too.

Yes, agreed. As I said, this is just for record, so that I can find this (simple)
patch on lkml if we have another user of __rcu_sync_enter(rsp, bool wait).

> > And can't resist, off-topic question... Say, cgroup_attach_task_all() does
> >
> > 	mutex_lock(&cgroup_mutex);
> > 	percpu_down_write(&cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem);
> >
> > and this means that synchronize_rcu() can be called with cgroup_mutex held.
> > Perhaps it makes sense to change this code to do
> >
> > 	rcu_sync_enter(&cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem.rss);
> > 	mutex_lock(&cgroup_mutex);
> > 	percpu_down_write(&cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem);
> > 	...
> > 	percpu_up_write(&cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem);
> > 	mutex_unlock(&cgroup_mutex);
> > 	rcu_sync_exit(&cgroup_threadgroup_rwsem.rss);
> >
> > ? Just curious.
>
> I'm not quite following.

Me too ;)

> Are you saying that if we switching the rwsem into
> slow mode before grabbing the locks, we can avoid inducing latencies on
> other users?

Well yes, in that another mutex_lock(&cgroup_mutex) won't sleep until
synchronize_rcu() (called under cgroup_mutex) completes.

> Hmm... assuming that I'm understanding you correctly, one
> problem with that approach is that everyone would be doing synchronize_rcu()
> whether they want to change favoring state.

Hmm... I didn't mean the changing if favoring state... And in any case,
this won't cause any additional synchronize_rcu().

Nevermind, please forget, this probably makes no sense.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-27 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-15  4:38 [PATCH 1/3 cgroup/for-5.20] cgroup: Elide write-locking threadgroup_rwsem when updating csses on an empty subtree Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <YtDvN0wJ6CKaEPN8-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-07-15  4:38   ` [PATCH 2/3 cgroup/for-5.20] cgroup: Add "no" prefixed mount options Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <YtDvU4jRPSsarcNp-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-07-15  4:39       ` [PATCH 3/3 cgroup/for-5.20] cgroup: Make !percpu threadgroup_rwsem operations optional Tejun Heo
2022-07-23  5:12         ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-23 14:28         ` [PATCH RESEND " Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <YtwFjPnCtw8ySnuv-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-07-25 12:12             ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]               ` <20220725121208.GB28662-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2022-07-26 23:14                 ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-27 17:39                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2022-07-25 14:16             ` Christian Brauner
2022-07-26 14:32           ` Michal Koutný
     [not found]             ` <20220726143257.GA23882-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2022-07-26 17:33               ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-26 14:32       ` [PATCH 2/3 cgroup/for-5.20] cgroup: Add "no" prefixed mount options Michal Koutný
     [not found]         ` <20220726143246.GA23794-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2022-07-26 20:01           ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-26 23:30             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <YuB5ICv3bXsy5Xuh-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-07-26 23:48                 ` [PATCH cgroup/for-5.20] cgroup: remove "no" prefixed mount options options Tejun Heo
     [not found]                   ` <YuB9QXapVUy1t8TZ-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-07-27  9:27                     ` Michal Koutný
     [not found]                       ` <20220727092715.GA1569-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2022-07-27 17:55                         ` Tejun Heo
2022-07-26 14:31   ` [PATCH 1/3 cgroup/for-5.20] cgroup: Elide write-locking threadgroup_rwsem when updating csses on an empty subtree Michal Koutný

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