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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ivan Babrou <ivan-lDpJ742SOEtZroRs9YW3xA@public.gmane.org>,
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	kernel-team <kernel-team-lDpJ742SOEtZroRs9YW3xA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Low TCP throughput due to vmpressure with swap enabled
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 19:28:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221205192814.diiwtktsrgxzccw2@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y4T43Tc54vlKjTN0-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 01:07:25PM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> 
[...]
> > With the patch applied I'm capped at ~120MB/s, which is a symptom of a
> > clamped window.
> > 
> > I can't find any sockets with memcg->socket_pressure = 1, but at the
> > same time I only see the following rcv_ssthresh assigned to sockets:
> 
> Hm, I don't see how socket accounting would alter the network behavior
> other than through socket_pressure=1.
> 

I think what is happening is that the tcp stack is calling
tcp_under_memory_pressure() and making decisions without going through
the memcg charge codepath which set or reset memcg->socket_pressure.
Most probably the socket is clamped due to memcg->socket_pressure and
then the kernel never tried to grow its buffers because
memcg->socket_pressure is still set and thus never tried the memcg
charge codepath which would have reset memcg->socket_pressure. (Maybe)
That is my guess but network experts CCed can correct me.

Anyways, I don't think the pressure mechanism which relies on successful
charging will work. I am brainstorming towards memory.high based network
throttling. Basically use penalty_jiffies (or something similar) to set
memcg->socket_pressure. However I want this to be opt-in as we do have
applications which prefer to be killed than be throttled. So, still
working on the fine details how this can be done without introducing a
rigid API.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-05 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-22  0:53 Low TCP throughput due to vmpressure with swap enabled Ivan Babrou
2022-11-22 18:01 ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]   ` <CANn89iLzARPp6jW1xS0rf+-wS_RnwK-Kfgs9uQFYan2AHPRQFA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-11-22 18:11     ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]       ` <CABWYdi2TWJej806yif9hi7cxD9P9-EpMB9EU_72wWw9fFqtt4g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-11-22 18:23         ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found] ` <CABWYdi0G7cyNFbndM-ELTDAR3x4Ngm0AehEp5aP0tfNkXUE+Uw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-11-22 18:59   ` Yu Zhao
     [not found]     ` <CAOUHufbQ_JjW=zXEi10+=LQOREOPHrK66Rqayr=sFUH_tQbW1w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-11-22 19:05       ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]         ` <CABWYdi3aOtJuMe4Z=FFzBb3iR6Cc9k8G2swSuZ_GDnaESuE_EQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-11-22 19:08           ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 19:46   ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 20:05     ` Yu Zhao
     [not found]       ` <CAOUHufYSeTeO5ZMpnCR781esHV4QV5Th+pd=52UaM9cXNNKF9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-11-23  0:44         ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-23 21:22           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]             ` <Y36PF972kOK3ADvx-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-11-24  1:18               ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-24  1:29                 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 20:05   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-22 22:11     ` Ivan Babrou
2022-11-23  1:28       ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]         ` <CABWYdi0qhWs56WK=k+KoQBAMh+Tb6Rr0nY4kJN+E5YqfGhKTmQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-11-28 18:07           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]             ` <Y4T43Tc54vlKjTN0-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-12-05 19:28               ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2022-12-05 23:57               ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]                 ` <CABWYdi0z6-46PrNWumSXWki6Xf4G_EP1Nvc-2t00nEi0PiOU3Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-12-06  0:50                   ` Ivan Babrou
2022-12-06 19:00                     ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                       ` <Y4+RPry2tfbWFdSA-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-12-06 19:13                         ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                           ` <CANn89iJfx4QdVBqJ23oFJoz5DJKou=ZwVBNNXFNDJRNAqNvzwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-12-06 20:51                             ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                               ` <Y4+rNYF9WZyJyBQp-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-12-06 23:10                                 ` Shakeel Butt
2022-12-07 12:53                                   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-12-08  0:31                                     ` Shakeel Butt

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