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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	Intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Zefan Li" <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	"Dave Airlie" <airlied@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Rob Clark" <robdclark@chromium.org>,
	"Stéphane Marchesin" <marcheu@chromium.org>,
	"T . J . Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>,
	Kenny.Ho@amd.com, "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Brian Welty" <brian.welty@intel.com>,
	"Tvrtko Ursulin" <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 00/12] DRM scheduling cgroup controller
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 14:00:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230127130034.GE3527@blackbody.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <246fefac-6c1d-e4f1-c0df-721ca23ab56a@linux.intel.com>

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On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:40:58AM +0000, Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> The main point is, should someone prove me wrong and come up a smarter way
> at some point in the future, then "drm.weight" as an ABI remains compatible
> and the improvement can happen completely under the hood. In the mean time
> users get external control, and _some_ ability to improve the user
> experience with the scenarios such as I described yesterday.

I'm on board now.

(I've done a mental switch of likening this rather to existing IO
control (higher variance of quanta size, worse preemption, limited
effect) than CPU control.)


> Cgroup tree hierarchy modifications being the reason for not converging can
> also happen, but I thought I can hand wave that as not a realistic scenario.
> Perhaps I am not imaginative enough?

My suggestion: simply skip offlined drmcgs instead of restarting whole
iteration. (A respawning cgroup-wrapped job or intentionally adverse
respawner could in my imagination cause that.)

> Under or over-accounting for migrating tasks I don't think can happen since
> I am explicitly handling that.

I'll reply to the patch for better context...

Regards,
Michal

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      reply	other threads:[~2023-01-27 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-12 16:55 [RFC v3 00/12] DRM scheduling cgroup controller Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:55 ` [RFC 01/12] drm: Track clients by tgid and not tid Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:55 ` [RFC 02/12] drm: Update file owner during use Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 03/12] cgroup: Add the DRM cgroup controller Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 04/12] drm/cgroup: Track clients per owning process Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-17 16:03   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2023-01-17 16:25     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 05/12] drm/cgroup: Allow safe external access to file_priv Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 06/12] drm/cgroup: Add ability to query drm cgroup GPU time Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 07/12] drm/cgroup: Add over budget signalling callback Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 08/12] drm/cgroup: Only track clients which are providing drm_cgroup_ops Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 09/12] cgroup/drm: Client exit hook Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 10/12] cgroup/drm: Introduce weight based drm cgroup control Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]   ` <20230112165609.1083270-11-tvrtko.ursulin-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-27 13:01     ` Michal Koutný
     [not found]       ` <20230127130134.GA15846-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-27 13:31         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-27 14:11           ` Michal Koutný
     [not found]             ` <20230127141136.GG3527-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-27 15:21               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-28  1:11     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <Y9R2N8sl+7f8Zacv-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-02 14:26         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]           ` <27b7882e-1201-b173-6f56-9ececb5780e8-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-02 20:00             ` Tejun Heo
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 11/12] drm/i915: Wire up with drm controller GPU time query Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 12/12] drm/i915: Implement cgroup controller over budget throttling Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found] ` <20230112165609.1083270-1-tvrtko.ursulin-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-23 15:42   ` [RFC v3 00/12] DRM scheduling cgroup controller Michal Koutný
     [not found]     ` <20230123154239.GA24348-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-25 18:11       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]         ` <371f3ce5-3468-b91d-d688-7e89499ff347-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-26 13:00           ` Michal Koutný
2023-01-26 17:04             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <Y9KyiCPYj2Mzym3Z-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-26 17:57                 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-26 18:14                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]                   ` <b8a0872c-fe86-b174-ca3b-0fc04a98e224-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-27 10:04                     ` Michal Koutný
2023-01-27 11:40                       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-27 13:00                         ` Michal Koutný [this message]

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