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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Ivan Babrou <ivan-lDpJ742SOEtZroRs9YW3xA@public.gmane.org>
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	Muchun Song <muchun.song-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: Expensive memory.stat + cpu.stat reads
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 06:20:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230706062045.xwmwns7cm4fxd7iu@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABWYdi0c6__rh-K7dcM_pkf9BJdTRtAU08M43KO9ME4-dsgfoQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 04:22:28PM -0700, Ivan Babrou wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We're seeing CPU load issues with cgroup stats retrieval. I made a
> public gist with all the details, including the repro code (which
> unfortunately requires heavily loaded hardware) and some flamegraphs:
> 
> * https://gist.github.com/bobrik/5ba58fb75a48620a1965026ad30a0a13
> 
> I'll repeat the gist of that gist here. Our repro has the following
> output after a warm-up run:
> 
> completed:  5.17s [manual / mem-stat + cpu-stat]
> completed:  5.59s [manual / cpu-stat + mem-stat]
> completed:  0.52s [manual / mem-stat]
> completed:  0.04s [manual / cpu-stat]
> 
> The first two lines do effectively the following:
> 
> for _ in $(seq 1 1000); do cat /sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/memory.stat
> /sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/cpu.stat > /dev/null
> 
> The latter two are the same thing, but via two loops:
> 
> for _ in $(seq 1 1000); do cat /sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/cpu.stat >
> /dev/null; done
> for _ in $(seq 1 1000); do cat /sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/memory.stat
> > /dev/null; done
> 
> As you might've noticed from the output, splitting the loop into two
> makes the code run 10x faster. This isn't great, because most
> monitoring software likes to get all stats for one service before
> reading the stats for the next one, which maps to the slow and
> expensive way of doing this.
> 
> We're running Linux v6.1 (the output is from v6.1.25) with no patches
> that touch the cgroup or mm subsystems, so you can assume vanilla
> kernel.
> 
> From the flamegraph it just looks like rstat flushing takes longer. I
> used the following flags on an AMD EPYC 7642 system (our usual pick
> cpu-clock was blaming spinlock irqrestore, which was questionable):
> 
> perf -e cycles -g --call-graph fp -F 999 -- /tmp/repro
> 
> Naturally, there are two questions that arise:
> 
> * Is this expected (I guess not, but good to be sure)?
> * What can we do to make this better?
> 
> I am happy to try out patches or to do some tracing to help understand
> this better.

Hi Ivan,

Thanks a lot, as always, for reporting this. This is not expected and
should be fixed. Is the issue easy to repro or some specific workload or
high load/traffic is required? Can you repro this with the latest linus
tree? Also do you see any difference of root's cgroup.stat where this
issue happens vs good state?

BTW I am away for next month with very limited connectivity, so expect
slow response.

thanks,
Shakeel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-07-06  6:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-30 23:22 Expensive memory.stat + cpu.stat reads Ivan Babrou
     [not found] ` <CABWYdi0c6__rh-K7dcM_pkf9BJdTRtAU08M43KO9ME4-dsgfoQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-06  6:20   ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2023-07-10 23:21     ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-11  0:44       ` Waiman Long
     [not found]         ` <d3f3a7bc-b181-a408-af1d-dd401c172cbf-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-13 23:25           ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]             ` <CABWYdi2iWYT0sHpK74W6=Oz6HA_3bAqKQd4h+amK0n3T3nge6g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-14 17:23               ` Waiman Long
     [not found]                 ` <fea3587a-ca6a-6930-bd3d-c4f7f330be67-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-15  0:00                   ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-15  0:30             ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]               ` <CABWYdi3YNwtPDwwJWmCO-ER50iP7CfbXkCep5TKb-9QzY-a40A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-11 22:03                 ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]                   ` <CABWYdi0+0gxr7PB4R8rh6hXO=H7ZaCzfk8bmOSeQMuZR7s7Pjg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-11 22:27                     ` Waiman Long
     [not found]                       ` <a052dffe-ed5e-6d22-8af8-0861e618f327-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-11 22:35                         ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]                           ` <CABWYdi0CXy2GZax_s6O-Xc0gvH+TGJzKwv_v6QqMty9P-ATJug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-12  2:33                             ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]                               ` <CALvZod65Y-dSkH6a=ASTDTK2oGznTd7Yts1csttxoP0w9jaQUw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-14 17:56                                 ` Ivan Babrou
2023-08-11 23:43                     ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]                       ` <CAJD7tkaf5GNbyhCbWyyLtxpqmZ4+iByQgmS1QEFf+bnEMCdmFA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-12  0:01                         ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]                           ` <CAJD7tkb=dUfc=L+61noQYHymHPUHswm_XUyFvRdaZemo80qUdQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-15  0:18                             ` Tejun Heo
2023-08-15  0:30                               ` Ivan Babrou
2023-08-15  0:31                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-15  0:14       ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-10 14:44   ` Michal Koutný
2023-07-10 23:23     ` Ivan Babrou

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