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From: Qiliang Yuan <realwujing@gmail.com>
To: peterz@infradead.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/15] sched/isolation: Implement sysfs interface for dynamic housekeeping
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2026 19:46:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260330114620.104027-1-realwujing@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260325140432.GE3738786@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 03:04:32PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Why? What was wrong with cpusets?

This is the central point of the architecture. The distinction I was 
trying to address is:

1. Task Isolation (Current CPUSets):
   The `cpuset` subsystem (especially `cpuset.cpus.partition = isolated`) 
   is excellent at managing task placement and load balancing. It 
   ensures no user tasks are pushed to isolated CPUs.

2. Kernel Overhead Isolation (Housekeeping):
   Currently, `cpusets` do not manage kernel-internal overhead like RCU 
   callbacks, timers, or unbound workqueues. These are managed by the 
   global `housekeeping_cpumask`, which is settled at boot via 
   `isolcpus`/`nohz_full` and is static.

DHEI fills this second gap by making the housekeeping mask dynamic. 
However, I agree that a parallel sysfs interface is redundant.

In V13, I will move the control interface to `cpuset`. The root cpuset 
will serve as the primary interface, allowing changes in the cpuset 
partition state to automatically trigger the migration of kernel 
housekeeping overhead. This achieves "Full Dynamic Isolation" (both tasks 
and kernel overhead) through a single, unified interface.

Best regards,
Qiliang

       reply	other threads:[~2026-03-30 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260325140432.GE3738786@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
2026-03-30 11:46 ` Qiliang Yuan [this message]
2026-03-30 18:34   ` [PATCH 13/15] sched/isolation: Implement sysfs interface for dynamic housekeeping Tejun Heo
2026-03-31 14:38   ` Waiman Long

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