From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Yuri Andriaccio" <yurand2000@gmail.com>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"Dietmar Eggemann" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Ben Segall" <bsegall@google.com>, "Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
"Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Yuri Andriaccio" <yuri.andriaccio@santannapisa.it>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 00/25] Hierarchical Constant Bandwidth Server
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2026 09:52:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260616095243.68e3ab19@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bcedd13fc22cb7ba590791a4c1387ecc@kernel.org>
Hi,
On Mon, 15 Jun 2026 10:38:54 -1000
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
[...]
> 2. root's cpu.rt.max: sched_rt_runtime_us already caps total DL/RT
> bandwidth and rt-cgroups admit against the same pool, so what does
> reserving the cgroup share separately at root add? It's also a
> writable control on root, which we otherwise keep off root.
Well, /proc/sys/kernel/sched_rt_{runtime,period}_us control the total
fraction of CPU time that can be reserved for dl and rt tasks; here, we
need a way to reserve a part of this fraction for rt cgropus only. We
need this because "regular" dl entities (the ones serving dl tasks) are
"global" (can migrate between different CPU cores), whereas dl entities
serving rt cgroups are pinned to their own CPU cores.
Combining the admission tests for these two different kinds of dl
entities is not simple, so we reserve a fixed fraction of CPU time for
rt cgroups, and the remaining part of
sched_rt_runtime_us/sched_rt_period_us is left to dl tasks.
If there is a better interface we can use to achieve this goal, we are
happy to switch to it.
Thanks,
Luca
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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-08 12:15 [RFC PATCH v6 00/25] Hierarchical Constant Bandwidth Server Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 01/25] sched/deadline: Fix replenishment logic for non-deferred servers Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 02/25] sched/rt: Update default bandwidth for real-time tasks to ONE Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 03/25] sched/deadline: Do not access dl_se->rq directly Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 04/25] sched/deadline: Distinguish between dl_rq and my_q Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 05/25] sched/rt: Pass an rt_rq instead of an rq where needed Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 06/25] sched/rt: Move functions from rt.c to sched.h Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 07/25] sched/rt: Disable RT_GROUP_SCHED Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 08/25] sched/rt: Remove unnecessary runqueue pointer in struct rt_rq Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 09/25] sched/rt: Introduce HCBS specific structs in task_group Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 10/25] sched/core: Initialize HCBS specific structures Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 11/25] sched/deadline: Add dl_init_tg Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 12/25] sched/rt: Add {alloc/unregister/free}_rt_sched_group Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-11 8:42 ` Juri Lelli
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 13/25] sched/deadline: Account rt-cgroups bandwidth in deadline tasks schedulability tests Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 14/25] sched/rt: Implement dl-server operations for rt-cgroups Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 15/25] sched/rt: Update task event callbacks for HCBS scheduling Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 16/25] sched/rt: Remove support for cgroups-v1 Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 17/25] sched/rt: Update rt-cgroup schedulability checks Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 18/25] sched/rt: Update task's RT runqueue when switching scheduling class Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 19/25] sched/rt: Remove old RT_GROUP_SCHED data structures Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 20/25] sched/rt: Add HCBS migration code to related functions Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 21/25] sched/rt: Hook HCBS migration functions Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 22/25] sched/core: Execute enqueued balance callbacks when changing allowed CPUs Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 23/25] sched/rt: Try pull task on empty server pick Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 24/25] sched/core: Execute enqueued balance callbacks after migrate_disable_switch Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-08 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH v6 25/25] Documentation: Update documentation for real-time cgroups Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-09 15:46 ` [RFC PATCH v6 00/25] Hierarchical Constant Bandwidth Server Juri Lelli
2026-06-09 16:23 ` Yuri Andriaccio
2026-06-10 9:21 ` Juri Lelli
2026-06-15 20:38 ` Tejun Heo
2026-06-16 7:52 ` luca abeni [this message]
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