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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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	"Tvrtko Ursulin"
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Subject: Re: [RFC 10/12] cgroup/drm: Introduce weight based drm cgroup control
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 14:26:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27b7882e-1201-b173-6f56-9ececb5780e8@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9R2N8sl+7f8Zacv-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>


On 28/01/2023 01:11, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 04:56:07PM +0000, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> ...
>> +	/*
>> +	 * 1st pass - reset working values and update hierarchical weights and
>> +	 * GPU utilisation.
>> +	 */
>> +	if (!__start_scanning(root, period_us))
>> +		goto out_retry; /*
>> +				 * Always come back later if scanner races with
>> +				 * core cgroup management. (Repeated pattern.)
>> +				 */
>> +
>> +	css_for_each_descendant_pre(node, &root->css) {
>> +		struct drm_cgroup_state *drmcs = css_to_drmcs(node);
>> +		struct cgroup_subsys_state *css;
>> +		unsigned int over_weights = 0;
>> +		u64 unused_us = 0;
>> +
>> +		if (!css_tryget_online(node))
>> +			goto out_retry;
>> +
>> +		/*
>> +		 * 2nd pass - calculate initial budgets, mark over budget
>> +		 * siblings and add up unused budget for the group.
>> +		 */
>> +		css_for_each_child(css, &drmcs->css) {
>> +			struct drm_cgroup_state *sibling = css_to_drmcs(css);
>> +
>> +			if (!css_tryget_online(css)) {
>> +				css_put(node);
>> +				goto out_retry;
>> +			}
>> +
>> +			sibling->per_s_budget_us  =
>> +				DIV_ROUND_UP_ULL(drmcs->per_s_budget_us *
>> +						 sibling->weight,
>> +						 drmcs->sum_children_weights);
>> +
>> +			sibling->over = sibling->active_us >
>> +					sibling->per_s_budget_us;
>> +			if (sibling->over)
>> +				over_weights += sibling->weight;
>> +			else
>> +				unused_us += sibling->per_s_budget_us -
>> +					     sibling->active_us;
>> +
>> +			css_put(css);
>> +		}
>> +
>> +		/*
>> +		 * 3rd pass - spread unused budget according to relative weights
>> +		 * of over budget siblings.
>> +		 */
>> +		css_for_each_child(css, &drmcs->css) {
>> +			struct drm_cgroup_state *sibling = css_to_drmcs(css);
>> +
>> +			if (!css_tryget_online(css)) {
>> +				css_put(node);
>> +				goto out_retry;
>> +			}
>> +
>> +			if (sibling->over) {
>> +				u64 budget_us =
>> +					DIV_ROUND_UP_ULL(unused_us *
>> +							 sibling->weight,
>> +							 over_weights);
>> +				sibling->per_s_budget_us += budget_us;
>> +				sibling->over = sibling->active_us  >
>> +						sibling->per_s_budget_us;
>> +			}
>> +
>> +			css_put(css);
>> +		}
>> +
>> +		css_put(node);
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * 4th pass - send out over/under budget notifications.
>> +	 */
>> +	css_for_each_descendant_post(node, &root->css) {
>> +		struct drm_cgroup_state *drmcs = css_to_drmcs(node);
>> +
>> +		if (!css_tryget_online(node))
>> +			goto out_retry;
>> +
>> +		if (drmcs->over || drmcs->over_budget)
>> +			signal_drm_budget(drmcs,
>> +					  drmcs->active_us,
>> +					  drmcs->per_s_budget_us);
>> +		drmcs->over_budget = drmcs->over;
>> +
>> +		css_put(node);
>> +	}
> 
> It keeps bothering me that the distribution logic has no memory. Maybe this
> is good enough for coarse control with long cycle durations but it likely
> will get in trouble if pushed to finer grained control. State keeping
> doesn't require a lot of complexity. The only state that needs tracking is
> each cgroup's vtime and then the core should be able to tell specific
> drivers how much each cgroup is over or under fairly accurately at any given
> time.
> 
> That said, this isn't a blocker. What's implemented can work well enough
> with coarse enough time grain and that might be enough for the time being
> and we can get back to it later. I think Michal already mentioned it but it
> might be a good idea to track active and inactive cgroups and build the
> weight tree with only active ones. There are machines with a lot of mostly
> idle cgroups (> tens of thousands) and tree wide scanning even at low
> frequency can become a pretty bad bottleneck.

Right, that's the kind of experience (tens of thousands) I was missing, 
thank you. Another one item on my TODO list then but I have a question 
first.

When you say active/inactive - to what you are referring in the cgroup 
world? Offline/online? For those my understanding was offline was a 
temporary state while css is getting destroyed.

Also, I am really postponing implementing those changes until I hear at 
least something from the DRM community.

Regards,

Tvrtko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-02 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-12 16:55 [RFC v3 00/12] DRM scheduling cgroup controller Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:55 ` [RFC 01/12] drm: Track clients by tgid and not tid Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:55 ` [RFC 02/12] drm: Update file owner during use Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 03/12] cgroup: Add the DRM cgroup controller Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 04/12] drm/cgroup: Track clients per owning process Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-17 16:03   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2023-01-17 16:25     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 05/12] drm/cgroup: Allow safe external access to file_priv Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 06/12] drm/cgroup: Add ability to query drm cgroup GPU time Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 07/12] drm/cgroup: Add over budget signalling callback Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 08/12] drm/cgroup: Only track clients which are providing drm_cgroup_ops Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 09/12] cgroup/drm: Client exit hook Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 10/12] cgroup/drm: Introduce weight based drm cgroup control Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]   ` <20230112165609.1083270-11-tvrtko.ursulin-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-27 13:01     ` Michal Koutný
     [not found]       ` <20230127130134.GA15846-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-27 13:31         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-27 14:11           ` Michal Koutný
     [not found]             ` <20230127141136.GG3527-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-27 15:21               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-28  1:11     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <Y9R2N8sl+7f8Zacv-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-02 14:26         ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
     [not found]           ` <27b7882e-1201-b173-6f56-9ececb5780e8-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-02 20:00             ` Tejun Heo
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 11/12] drm/i915: Wire up with drm controller GPU time query Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-12 16:56 ` [RFC 12/12] drm/i915: Implement cgroup controller over budget throttling Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found] ` <20230112165609.1083270-1-tvrtko.ursulin-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-23 15:42   ` [RFC v3 00/12] DRM scheduling cgroup controller Michal Koutný
     [not found]     ` <20230123154239.GA24348-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-25 18:11       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]         ` <371f3ce5-3468-b91d-d688-7e89499ff347-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-26 13:00           ` Michal Koutný
2023-01-26 17:04             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <Y9KyiCPYj2Mzym3Z-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-26 17:57                 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-26 18:14                   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
     [not found]                   ` <b8a0872c-fe86-b174-ca3b-0fc04a98e224-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-27 10:04                     ` Michal Koutný
2023-01-27 11:40                       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2023-01-27 13:00                         ` Michal Koutný

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