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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kamalesh Babulal <kamalesh.babulal@oracle.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] cgroup: Show # of subsystem CSSes in cgroup.stat
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:10:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48802fec-0563-429b-95b2-571862ffff18@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240712162920.GA1321673@cmpxchg.org>

On 7/12/24 12:29, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 05:00:41PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 7/11/24 15:59, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 03:13:12PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>> On 7/11/24 14:59, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 02:51:38PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/11/24 14:44, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 01:39:38PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/11/24 13:18, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Currently, I use the for_each_css() macro for iteration. If you mean
>>>>>>>> displaying all the possible cgroup subsystems even if they are not enabled
>>>>>>>> for the current cgroup, I will have to manually do the iteration.
>>>>>>> Just wrapping it with for_each_subsys() should do, no? for_each_css() won't
>>>>>>> iterate anything if css doesn't exist for the cgroup.
>>>>>> OK, I wasn't sure if you were asking to list all the possible cgroup v2
>>>>>> cgroup subsystems even if they weren't enabled in the current cgroup.
>>>>>> Apparently, that is the case. I prefer it that way too.
>>>>> Yeah, I think listing all is better. If the list corresponded directly to
>>>>> cgroup.controllers, it may make sense to only show enabled ones but we can
>>>>> have dying ones and implicitly enabled memory and so on, so I think it'd be
>>>>> cleaner to just list them all.
>>>> That will means cgroup subsystems that are seldomly used like rdma, misc
>>>> or even hugetlb will always be shown in all the cgroup.stat output. I
>>>> actually prefer just showing those that are enabled. As for dying memory
>>>> cgroups, they will only be shown in its online ancestors. We currently
>>>> don't know how many level down are each of the dying ones.
>>> It seems odd to me to not show dead ones after a cgroup has disabled
>>> the controller again. They still consume memory, after all, and so
>>> continue to be property of that cgroup afterwards.
>>>
>>> Instead of doing for_each_css(), would it make more sense to have
>>>
>>> 	struct cgroup {
>>> 		...
>>> 		int nr_dying_subsys[CGROUP_SUBSYS_COUNT];
>> What exactly does new this array for?
> For keeping the counts. Instead of inside the css.
>
> AFAICS, with your current patch, if somebody were to disable the
> controller in cgroup.subtree_control, it would offline the css at that
> level, become unreachable from cgroup->subsys[], and you'd lose
> remaining counts of dead css that are still associated with that
> cgroup. Re-enabling the controller would create a new css with new
> descendant counts, and now the reported numbers are actively misleading.
>
> That seems undesirable.
>
> If you track the counts in the cgroup itself, then cgroup.stat would
> reliably show the total counts of dead controllers that are associated
> with the subtree, even after disabling or toggling controllers.
>
> The hooks in online, offline, release should be the same, just update
> css->cgroup->nr_dying_subsys[id] instead of css->nr_dying_descendants.

That does make sense. Thank for the suggestion. I will update the patch 
accordingly.

Cheers,
Longman


      reply	other threads:[~2024-07-12 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-10 18:23 [PATCH v3 1/2] cgroup: Show # of subsystem CSSes in cgroup.stat Waiman Long
2024-07-10 18:23 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cgroup: Limit frequency of reading cgroup.stat for unprivileged users Waiman Long
2024-07-10 21:43 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] cgroup: Show # of subsystem CSSes in cgroup.stat Roman Gushchin
2024-07-10 23:49   ` Waiman Long
2024-07-10 21:59 ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-10 23:51   ` Waiman Long
2024-07-11 13:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-07-11 14:05   ` Waiman Long
2024-07-11 17:18     ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-11 17:39       ` Waiman Long
2024-07-11 18:44         ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-11 18:51           ` Waiman Long
2024-07-11 18:59             ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-11 19:13               ` Waiman Long
2024-07-11 19:21                 ` Tejun Heo
2024-07-11 19:29                   ` Waiman Long
2024-07-11 19:59                 ` Johannes Weiner
2024-07-11 21:00                   ` Waiman Long
2024-07-11 21:57                     ` Waiman Long
2024-07-12 16:29                     ` Johannes Weiner
2024-07-12 17:10                       ` Waiman Long [this message]

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