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From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker
	<fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	devel-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
	<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Suleiman Souhlal
	<suleiman-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg-bbCR+/B0CizivPeTLB3BmA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/23] kmem controller charge/uncharge infrastructure
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:43:28 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F980D90.8050109@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1204241550110.2537-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>

On 04/24/2012 07:54 PM, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:
>
>>> Yes, for user memory, I see charging to p->mm->owner as allowing that
>>> process to eventually move and be charged to a different memcg and there's
>>> no way to do proper accounting if the charge is split amongst different
>>> memcgs because of thread membership to a set of memcgs.  This is
>>> consistent with charges for shared memory being moved when a thread
>>> mapping it moves to a new memcg, as well.
>>
>> But that's the problem.
>>
>> When we are dealing with kernel memory, we are allocating a whole slab page.
>> It is essentially impossible to track, given a page, which task allocated
>> which object.
>>
>
> Right, so you have to make the distinction that slab charges cannot be
> migrated by memory.move_charge_at_immigrate (and it's not even specified
> to do anything beyond user pages in Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt),

Never intended to.

> but
> it would be consistent to charge the same memcg for a process's slab
> allocations as the process's user allocations.
>
> My response was why we shouldn't be charging user pages to
> mem_cgroup_from_task(current) rather than
> mem_cgroup_from_task(current->mm->owner) which is what is currently
> implemented.

Ah, all right. Well, for user memory I agree with you. My point was 
exactly that user memory can always be pinpointed to a specific address 
space, while kernel memory can't.

>
> If that can't be changed so that we can still migrate user memory amongst
> memcgs for memory.move_charge_at_immigrate, then it seems consistent to
> have all allocations done by a task to be charged to the same memcg.
> Hence, I suggested current->mm->owner for slab charging as well.

All right. This can be done. Although I don't see this as a must for 
slab as already explained, I certainly don't oppose doing so as well.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-25 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-20 21:57 [PATCH 00/23] slab+slub accounting for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 01/23] slub: don't create a copy of the name string in kmem_cache_create Glauber Costa
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 02/23] slub: always get the cache from its page in kfree Glauber Costa
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 03/23] slab: rename gfpflags to allocflags Glauber Costa
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 04/23] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1334959051-18203-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  0:59     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 05/23] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1334959051-18203-6-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  1:16     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 06/23] slab: use obj_size field of struct kmem_cache when not debugging Glauber Costa
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 07/23] change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1334959051-18203-8-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  1:18     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 08/23] don't force return value checking in res_counter_charge_nofail Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1334959051-18203-9-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  1:28     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 09/23] kmem slab accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1334959051-18203-10-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  1:32     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-25 14:38       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]         ` <4F980C81.5060802-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26  0:08           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-30 19:33   ` Suleiman Souhlal
     [not found]     ` <CABCjUKBCqBWXuyzx73y3sekNqAKpYqAhRjQDtSWF5o7qUbC-RA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-02 15:15       ` Glauber Costa
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 10/23] slab/slub: struct memcg_params Glauber Costa
2012-04-30 19:42   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-04-20 21:57 ` [PATCH 11/23] slub: consider a memcg parameter in kmem_create_cache Glauber Costa
2012-04-24 14:03   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-24 14:27     ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1334959051-18203-12-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25  1:38     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-25 14:37       ` Glauber Costa
2012-04-30 19:51   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-05-02 15:18     ` Glauber Costa
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 12/23] slab: pass memcg parameter to kmem_cache_create Glauber Costa
2012-04-30 19:54   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 13/23] slub: create duplicate cache Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <1335138820-26590-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 14:18     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-24 14:37       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]         ` <4F96BAC7.4000709-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-26 13:10           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-30 20:15   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 14/23] slub: provide kmalloc_no_account Glauber Costa
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 15/23] slab: create duplicate cache Glauber Costa
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 16/23] slab: provide kmalloc_no_account Glauber Costa
2012-04-25  1:44   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-25 14:29     ` Glauber Costa
2012-04-26  0:13       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 17/23] kmem controller charge/uncharge infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-04-23 22:25   ` David Rientjes
     [not found]     ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1204231522320.13535-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 14:22       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-24 14:40         ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]           ` <4F96BB62.1030900-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-24 20:25             ` David Rientjes
2012-04-24 21:36               ` Glauber Costa
2012-04-24 22:54                 ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1204241550110.2537-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-25 14:43                     ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-04-24 20:21         ` David Rientjes
2012-04-27 11:38           ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]             ` <20120427113841.GB3514-oHC15RC7JGTpAmv0O++HtFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27 18:13               ` David Rientjes
2012-04-25  1:56         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-04-25 14:44           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]           ` <4F9759C0.1070805-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-27 12:22             ` Frederic Weisbecker
     [not found]   ` <1335138820-26590-6-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-30 20:56     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2012-05-02 15:34       ` Glauber Costa
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 18/23] slub: charge allocation to a memcg Glauber Costa
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 19/23] slab: per-memcg accounting of slab caches Glauber Costa
2012-04-30 21:25   ` Suleiman Souhlal
     [not found]     ` <CABCjUKCX6MvOaS5s_n6tYcmfyDCgW60aXTG8ZbznmZOAfS=joA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-02 15:40       ` Glauber Costa
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 20/23] memcg: disable kmem code when not in use Glauber Costa
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 21/23] memcg: Track all the memcg children of a kmem_cache Glauber Costa
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 22/23] memcg: Per-memcg memory.kmem.slabinfo file Glauber Costa
2012-04-22 23:53 ` [PATCH 23/23] slub: create slabinfo file for memcg Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1334959051-18203-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-04-22 23:59   ` [PATCH 00/23] slab+slub accounting " Glauber Costa
2012-04-30  9:59   ` [PATCH 0/3] A few fixes for '[PATCH 00/23] slab+slub accounting for memcg' series Anton Vorontsov
2012-04-30 10:01     ` [PATCH 1/3] slab: Proper off-slabs handling when duplicating caches Anton Vorontsov
2012-04-30 10:01     ` [PATCH 2/3] slab: Fix imbalanced rcu locking Anton Vorontsov
2012-04-30 10:02     ` [PATCH 3/3] slab: Get rid of mem_cgroup_put_kmem_cache() Anton Vorontsov

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