From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, devel@openvz.org,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/11] memcg: propagate kmem limiting information to children
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:22:49 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <503496D9.3020806@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xr93fw7fbumo.fsf@gthelen.mtv.corp.google.com>
>>>
>>> I am fine with either, I just need a clear sign from you guys so I don't
>>> keep deimplementing and reimplementing this forever.
>>
>> I would be for make it simple now and go with additional features later
>> when there is a demand for them. Maybe we will have runtimg switch for
>> user memory accounting as well one day.
>>
>> But let's see what others think?
>
> In my use case memcg will either be disable or (enabled and kmem
> limiting enabled).
>
> I'm not sure I follow the discussion about history. Are we saying that
> once a kmem limit is set then kmem will be accounted/charged to memcg.
> Is this discussion about the static branches/etc that are autotuned the
> first time is enabled?
No, the question is about when you unlimit a former kmem-limited memcg.
> The first time its set there parts of the system
> will be adjusted in such a way that may impose a performance overhead
> (static branches, etc). Thereafter the performance cannot be regained
> without a reboot. This makes sense to me. Are we saying that
> kmem.limit_in_bytes will have three states?
It is not about performance, about interface.
Michal says that once a particular memcg was kmem-limited, it will keep
accounting pages, even if you make it unlimited. The limits won't be
enforced, for sure - there is no limit, but pages will still be accounted.
This simplifies the code galore, but I worry about the interface: A
person looking at the current status of the files only, without
knowledge of past history, can't tell if allocations will be tracked or not.
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2012-08-09 13:01 [PATCH v2 00/11] Request for Inclusion: kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 15:12 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-3-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 15:42 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120810154240.GG1425-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 16:49 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <50253B95.7010905-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 17:28 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 17:56 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-10 17:30 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120810173000.GB14591-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 18:52 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 18:54 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120810185417.GB16110-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-13 8:05 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <5028B552.2070708-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-13 13:10 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-4-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 15:43 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 17:02 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <50253EA8.9080205-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-13 8:36 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17 2:38 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-14 16:21 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 9:33 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502B6D03.1080804-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 11:12 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1345029143.2976.41.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 12:55 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 13:29 ` James Bottomley
2012-08-15 12:39 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120815123931.GF23985-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 12:53 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502B9BD4.4070003-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 13:02 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120815130228.GH23985-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 13:04 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502B9E5F.2080907-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 13:26 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120815132621.GJ23985-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 13:31 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502BA4AC.9040000-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 14:10 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120815141041.GK23985-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 14:11 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 14:47 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <000001392ac15404-43a3fd2c-a6d3-4985-b173-74bb586ad47c-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 15:11 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 15:34 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <000001392aec1926-72b3a631-1fb1-460c-803d-38c4405151e1-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 15:35 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502BC1B1.3010807-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 17:26 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 18:11 ` Ying Han
[not found] ` <CALWz4ixv8wfOqQ34CBLQ1jVdWoQc4-hQRkeRTb6U5x93gxjZZw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 18:25 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <000001392b881bf0-4cf7cb93-c142-4ddb-960a-b35390caca0f-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 19:22 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 18:07 ` Ying Han
2012-08-15 15:19 ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-15 15:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 18:01 ` Ying Han
[not found] ` <CALWz4ixYXN9FGJ1E9CZ9viJ=s3k63Pm8t3nakQvi+1T5qtyFYw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 18:00 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 19:50 ` Ying Han
[not found] ` <CALWz4iwgnqwq5k_zhpsiiwrj8Y=OkCUg7H96khJWPZScSQE=nw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-16 15:25 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 5:58 ` Ying Han
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-6-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 17:07 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-7-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 17:27 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-13 8:28 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-14 18:58 ` Greg Thelen
[not found] ` <xr93ipcl9u7x.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 9:18 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 16:38 ` Greg Thelen
[not found] ` <xr93wr109kke.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 17:00 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 17:12 ` Greg Thelen
[not found] ` <xr93lihg9j0q.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 19:31 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502BF916.10902-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-16 3:37 ` Greg Thelen
[not found] ` <xr93zk5vecde.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-16 7:47 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-20 13:36 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-20 15:29 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <5028BA9E.7000302-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-17 2:36 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <502DAE2A.1000404-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-17 7:04 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-14 11:00 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-14 17:25 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 9:42 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 10:44 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502B6F00.8040207-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 13:09 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 14:01 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502BABCF.7020608-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 14:23 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-15 14:27 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-16 9:53 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120816095309.GB2817-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-16 9:57 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-16 15:05 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-16 15:22 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-11 5:11 ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-13 8:07 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13 9:59 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13 21:21 ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-21 21:50 ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-22 8:35 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <503499CC.7070704-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-23 0:07 ` Greg Thelen
[not found] ` <xr93boi2v5bi.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-23 7:51 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-8-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-09 16:33 ` Greg Thelen
[not found] ` <xr93boikgh4w.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-09 16:42 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-10 17:33 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <502545D2.80708-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-13 8:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-13 8:57 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-14 15:16 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 9:08 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502B66F8.30909-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 13:22 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 13:39 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <20120815132244.GQ4177-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 13:51 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-15 9:24 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-10 17:36 ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-13 8:02 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] memcg: disable kmem code when not in use Glauber Costa
2012-08-17 7:02 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 7:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17 8:04 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] memcg: propagate kmem limiting information to children Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-10-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 17:51 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
[not found] ` <50254A0A.3080805-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-13 8:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17 9:00 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 9:15 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-17 9:35 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120817093504.GE18600-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-17 10:07 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502E17C4.7060204-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-17 10:35 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 10:36 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <502E1E90.1080805-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-21 7:54 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21 8:35 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21 9:17 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <20120821075430.GA19797-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-21 9:22 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-21 10:00 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-21 10:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-22 1:09 ` Greg Thelen
2012-08-22 8:22 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-08-22 23:23 ` Greg Thelen
[not found] ` <xr93a9xmwly7.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-23 7:55 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <5035E1D6.6010503-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-24 5:06 ` Greg Thelen
[not found] ` <xr93harsvpxx.fsf-aSPv4SP+Du0KgorLzL7FmE7CuiCeIGUxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-24 5:23 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <20120817103550.GF18600-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-17 10:39 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-11-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-21 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-22 8:36 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-09 13:01 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1344517279-30646-12-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-10 17:54 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-08-21 9:35 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20120821093513.GD19797-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-21 9:40 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <5033579D.5000203-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-21 10:57 ` Michal Hocko
2012-08-17 21:37 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Request for Inclusion: kmem controller for memcg Ying Han
[not found] ` <CALWz4iycCxuUaEeBz_b8+U13fcCLep3rvuSNUTPD8N-eZkDBrg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-20 7:51 ` Glauber Costa
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