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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
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	Frederic Weisbecker
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	Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg-bbCR+/B0CizivPeTLB3BmA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:00:03 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <507D1403.2070205@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5077DF20.7020200-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>

(2012/10/12 18:13), Glauber Costa wrote:
> On 10/12/2012 12:57 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> On Fri 12-10-12 12:44:57, Glauber Costa wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2012 12:39 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>> On Fri 12-10-12 11:45:46, Glauber Costa wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2012 04:42 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon 08-10-12 14:06:12, Glauber Costa wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> +	/*
>>>>>>> +	 * Conditions under which we can wait for the oom_killer.
>>>>>>> +	 * __GFP_NORETRY should be masked by __mem_cgroup_try_charge,
>>>>>>> +	 * but there is no harm in being explicit here
>>>>>>> +	 */
>>>>>>> +	may_oom = (gfp & __GFP_WAIT) && !(gfp & __GFP_NORETRY);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well we _have to_ check __GFP_NORETRY here because if we don't then we
>>>>>> can end up in OOM. mem_cgroup_do_charge returns CHARGE_NOMEM for
>>>>>> __GFP_NORETRY (without doing any reclaim) and of oom==true we decrement
>>>>>> oom retries counter and eventually hit OOM killer. So the comment is
>>>>>> misleading.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will update. What i understood from your last message is that we don't
>>>>> really need to, because try_charge will do it.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC I just said it couldn't happen before because migration doesn't go
>>>> through charge and thp disable oom by default.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I had it changed to:
>>>
>>>          /*
>>>           * Conditions under which we can wait for the oom_killer.
>>>           * We have to be able to wait, but also, if we can't retry,
>>>           * we obviously shouldn't go mess with oom.
>>>           */
>>>          may_oom = (gfp & __GFP_WAIT) && !(gfp & __GFP_NORETRY);
>>
>> OK
>>
>>>
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +	_memcg = memcg;
>>>>>>> +	ret = __mem_cgroup_try_charge(NULL, gfp, size >> PAGE_SHIFT,
>>>>>>> +				      &_memcg, may_oom);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +	if (!ret) {
>>>>>>> +		ret = res_counter_charge(&memcg->kmem, size, &fail_res);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that I'm thinking about the charging ordering we should charge the
>>>>>> kmem first because we would like to hit kmem limit before we hit u+k
>>>>>> limit, don't we.
>>>>>> Say that you have kmem limit 10M and the total limit 50M. Current `u'
>>>>>> would be 40M and this charge would cause kmem to hit the `k' limit. I
>>>>>> think we should fail to charge kmem before we go to u+k and potentially
>>>>>> reclaim/oom.
>>>>>> Or has this been alredy discussed and I just do not remember?
>>>>>>
>>>>> This has never been discussed as far as I remember. We charged u first
>>>>> since day0, and you are so far the first one to raise it...
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the things in favor of charging 'u' first is that
>>>>> mem_cgroup_try_charge is already equipped to make a lot of decisions,
>>>>> like when to allow reclaim, when to bypass charges, and it would be good
>>>>> if we can reuse all that.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, I think that we should prevent from those decisions if kmem charge
>>>> would fail anyway (especially now when we do not have targeted slab
>>>> reclaim).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let's revisit this discussion when we do have targeted reclaim. For now,
>>> I'll agree that charging kmem first would be acceptable.
>>>
>>> This will only make a difference when K < U anyway.
>>
>> Yes and it should work as advertised (aka hit the k limit first).
>>
> Just so we don't ping-pong in another submission:
>
> I changed memcontrol.h's memcg_kmem_newpage_charge to include:
>
>          /* If the test is dying, just let it go. */
>          if (unlikely(test_thread_flag(TIF_MEMDIE)
>                       || fatal_signal_pending(current)))
>                  return true;
>
>
> I'm also attaching the proposed code in memcontrol.c
>
> +static int memcg_charge_kmem(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp, u64 size)
> +{
> +	struct res_counter *fail_res;
> +	struct mem_cgroup *_memcg;
> +	int ret = 0;
> +	bool may_oom;
> +
> +	ret = res_counter_charge(&memcg->kmem, size, &fail_res);
> +	if (ret)
> +		return ret;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * Conditions under which we can wait for the oom_killer.
> +	 * We have to be able to wait, but also, if we can't retry,
> +	 * we obviously shouldn't go mess with oom.
> +	 */
> +	may_oom = (gfp & __GFP_WAIT) && !(gfp & __GFP_NORETRY);
> +
> +	_memcg = memcg;
> +	ret = __mem_cgroup_try_charge(NULL, gfp, size >> PAGE_SHIFT,
> +				      &_memcg, may_oom);
> +
> +	if (ret == -EINTR)  {
> +		/*
> +		 * __mem_cgroup_try_charge() chosed to bypass to root due to
> +		 * OOM kill or fatal signal.  Since our only options are to
> +		 * either fail the allocation or charge it to this cgroup, do
> +		 * it as a temporary condition. But we can't fail. From a
> +		 * kmem/slab perspective, the cache has already been selected,
> +		 * by mem_cgroup_get_kmem_cache(), so it is too late to change
> +		 * our minds. This condition will only trigger if the task
> +		 * entered memcg_charge_kmem in a sane state, but was
> +		 * OOM-killed.  during __mem_cgroup_try_charge. Tasks that are
> +		 * already dying when the allocation triggers should have been
> +		 * already directed to the root cgroup.
> +		 */
> +		res_counter_charge_nofail(&memcg->res, size, &fail_res);
> +		if (do_swap_account)
> +			res_counter_charge_nofail(&memcg->memsw, size,
> +						  &fail_res);
> +		ret = 0;
> +	} else if (ret)
> +		res_counter_uncharge(&memcg->kmem, size);
> +
> +	return ret;
> +}

seems ok to me. but we'll need a patch to hide the usage > limit situation from
users.

Thanks,
-Kame


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-16  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-08 10:06 [PATCH v4 00/14] kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1349690780-15988-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 01/14] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 02/14] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1349690780-15988-3-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-16  3:22       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 03/14] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1349690780-15988-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11 10:11       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-11 12:53         ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-11 13:38         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20121011101119.GB29295-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  7:36           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]             ` <5077C886.2030609-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  8:27               ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 05/14] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1349690780-15988-6-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-09 15:04       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 12:42     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-11 12:56       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <20121011124212.GC29295-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  7:45         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12  8:39           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <20121012083944.GD10110-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  8:44               ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                 ` <5077D889.2040100-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  8:57                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <20121012085740.GG10110-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  9:13                       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                         ` <5077DF20.7020200-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  9:47                           ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16  8:00                           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki [this message]
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 08/14] res_counter: return amount of charges after res_counter_uncharge Glauber Costa
2012-10-09 15:08     ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-09 15:14       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-09 15:35         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <20121009153506.GD7655-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10  9:03             ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]               ` <507539EB.90006-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 11:24                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <1349690780-15988-9-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-10 11:25       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16  8:20       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 09/14] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1349690780-15988-10-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11 13:11       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20121011131143.GF29295-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  7:47           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]             ` <5077CB05.907-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  8:41               ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16  8:41                 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 10/14] memcg: use static branches when code not in use Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1349690780-15988-11-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11 13:40       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-12  7:47         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16  8:48           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 11/14] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 12/14] execute the whole memcg freeing in free_worker Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1349690780-15988-13-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11 14:21       ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 13/14] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-10-08 10:06   ` [PATCH v4 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller Glauber Costa
2012-10-11 14:35     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <20121011143559.GJ29295-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  7:53         ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-12  8:44           ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-17  7:29     ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki

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