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From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] cgroup: kill CSS_REMOVED
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:19:51 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50915DB7.5020706@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOS58YP=CjTPFdETLRXnc3gXEzX2=EEe2dMdSh3Eov7zRfV4Qg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 10/31/2012 09:10 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Glauber.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> This is not the topic of this thread, but since you brought it:
>> If you take a look at the description patch in the patch I sent, the
>> problem I outlined is that at create time, we don't know anything about
>> which will the css_id be - and I would like to avoid creating yet
>> another index.
>>
>> Is there any way you would suggest of handling this ? Any chance of us
>> allocating the css_id earlier then?
> 
> I only glanced the patch description but the problem I'm trying to
> solve is locking - currently we don't have a place where a controller
> can tell a cgroup is becoming online; thus it has nothing to
> synchronized against and tell that a cgroup is alive or not.  As for
> css_id allocation, maybe you can deal with that in ->post_create() or
> maybe we can allocate css_id earlier (but where would it be stored?).
> I'll look into it.
> 

The css_id is allocated right after ->create(). So if post_create() is
called after that, I can use it just fine - which is what I do in my
patch. Problem is, since I do memory allocation based on that, it can fail.

So although I would have to look at your series myself to see exactly
what you are trying to achieve (looking forward), I seemed natural to me
to think about it terms of "early_create" + "late_create" (->create())
and ->post_create()), where the later is a callback when things are
readier (in this case, the css_id).

I don't see post_create failing as a huge problem. The natural
synchronization point would be "right after post_create" - then you can
definitely tell that it is online. Although this can be viewed a bit as
"exposing internals", creating is different then destroying: When you
create, you may not have all data yet. When destroying, you do - and
want to get rid of it. So this kind of bootstrapping is pretty standard
and common.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-31 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-31  4:22 [PATCHSET] cgroup: simplify cgroup removal path Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1351657365-25055-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31  4:22   ` [PATCH 1/8] cgroup: kill cgroup_subsys->__DEPRECATED_clear_css_refs Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351657365-25055-2-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 13:21       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]         ` <509125D9.8070100-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:38           ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 14:37       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20121031143751.GA22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:41           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20121031164123.GD2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:48               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                 ` <20121031164855.GI22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:22                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-02  9:23       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31  4:22   ` [PATCH 2/8] cgroup: kill CSS_REMOVED Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351657365-25055-3-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 15:39       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20121031153926.GC22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:57           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20121031165739.GE2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:06               ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                 ` <50915A87.4070504-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:10                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <CAOS58YP=CjTPFdETLRXnc3gXEzX2=EEe2dMdSh3Eov7zRfV4Qg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:19                       ` Glauber Costa [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <50915DB7.5020706-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:25                           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                             ` <20121031172522.GJ2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:38                               ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                                 ` <50916218.3090301-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:44                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 17:39                               ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 19:16               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                 ` <20121031191602.GB1271-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 19:33                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-02  9:30       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31  4:22   ` [PATCH 3/8] cgroup: use cgroup_lock_live_group(parent) in cgroup_create() Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351657365-25055-4-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 15:55       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20121031155514.GD22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:04           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20121031170431.GF2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01  9:16               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                 ` <20121101091644.GA8533-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 14:52                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <CAOS58YM+kRtspVUzmnSmOmrDoNS_kF6KA02zWGxqH5FUcRWo1Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 15:05                       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                         ` <20121101150532.GA5065-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 15:15                           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                             ` <20121101151556.GB5065-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-01 15:43                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-02  9:37       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31  4:22   ` [PATCH 4/8] cgroup: deactivate CSS's and mark cgroup dead before invoking ->pre_destroy() Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351657365-25055-5-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 13:42       ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 16:05       ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-02  9:43       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31  4:22   ` [PATCH 5/8] cgroup: remove CGRP_WAIT_ON_RMDIR, cgroup_exclude_rmdir() and cgroup_release_and_wakeup_rmdir() Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351657365-25055-6-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:27       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20121031162735.GF22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:16           ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-02  9:53       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31  4:22   ` [PATCH 6/8] memcg: make mem_cgroup_reparent_charges non failing Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351657365-25055-7-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-02  9:54       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31  4:22   ` [PATCH 7/8] hugetlb: do not fail in hugetlb_cgroup_pre_destroy Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351657365-25055-8-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-02  9:56       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31  4:22   ` [PATCH 8/8] cgroup: make ->pre_destroy() return void Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351657365-25055-9-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 13:57       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-10-31 16:28       ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-02  9:57       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-31 13:49   ` [PATCHSET] cgroup: simplify cgroup removal path Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <50912C6D.6020000-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:18       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20121031171849.GH2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:24           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]             ` <50915EB6.3060704-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:26               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20121031172617.GK2945-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 17:33                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-31 16:31   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <20121031163134.GH22809-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 16:35       ` Tejun Heo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-10-31 18:16 [PATCHSET v2] " Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1351707391-22287-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 18:16   ` [PATCH 2/8] cgroup: kill CSS_REMOVED Tejun Heo
2012-10-31 19:44 [PATCHSET RESEND v2] cgroup: simplify cgroup removal path Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1351712650-23709-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-31 19:44   ` [PATCH 2/8] cgroup: kill CSS_REMOVED Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351712650-23709-3-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-02 10:02       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-05  5:33       ` Li Zefan

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