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From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra
	<a.p.zijlstra-/NLkJaSkS4VmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/11] sched: introduce cgroup file stat_percpu
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:26:48 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50FFF328.9070200@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EDE0AB.1030509-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>

On 01/10/2013 01:27 AM, Glauber Costa wrote:
> On 01/10/2013 01:17 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:10:02 +0400
>> Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The main advantage I see in this approach, is that there is way less
>>> data to be written using a header. Although your way works, it means we
>>> will write the strings "nice", "system", etc. #cpu times. Quite a waste.
>>
>> Yes, overhead can be a significant issue with this type of interface. 
>> But we already incurred a massive overhead by using a human-readable
>> ascii interface.  If performance is an issue, perhaps the whole thing
>> should be grafted onto taskstats instead.  Or create a new
>> taskstats-like thing.
> 
> I think this would be a little alienish in the already alien world of
> cgroups.
> 
> However, I was not so much talking about plain performance overhead as
> measurable in miliseconds-to-parse, but rather just alluding to the fact
> that we would be writing the same set of strings multiple times when a
> header would do just fine.
> 
> This is the same method used for instance by slabinfo.
> 
>>
>> btw, a more typical interface would be
>>
>> cat /.../cpu0
>> nice:nn
>> system:nn
>> irq:nn
>>
> 
> Well, yes. But welcome to cgroups: directories have a meaning, so the
> only way to organize stuff is with plain files in the current hierarchy
> is by filling it with files. As many files as we have cpus.
> 
> At this point you are certain to miss all the other files present in the
> directory.
> 
> 
>> - the traditional one-per-line name:value tuples.  But I'd assumed that
>> having a file per CPU would be aawkward.
>>
> Indeed.
> 

Andrew,

Given my arguments above, which interface would you prefer for me to
settle down? I still don't see any problems with the header, specially
given the fact that it exists precisely to allow fields to come and go
if needed.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-23 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-09 11:45 [PATCH v5 00/11] per-cgroup cpu-stat Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] don't call cpuacct_charge in stop_task.c Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] cgroup: implement CFTYPE_NO_PREFIX Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] cgroup, sched: deprecate cpuacct Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] sched: adjust exec_clock to use it as cpu usage metric Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] cpuacct: don't actually do anything Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] account guest time per-cgroup as well Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1357731938-8417-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-09 11:45   ` [PATCH v5 03/11] cgroup, sched: let cpu serve the same files as cpuacct Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1357731938-8417-4-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-14  8:34       ` Sha Zhengju
     [not found]         ` <CAFj3OHW5J8ypLZdW16AfiYR5y2S54mQxm5qka4m_3qsoGdD11A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-14 14:55           ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]             ` <50F41C50.6090000-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-15 10:19               ` Sha Zhengju
     [not found]                 ` <CAFj3OHWB8GF9UYcLdObptrY+BfB=EEwbBtsf17M1=6qfZt+k6g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-15 17:52                   ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 11:45   ` [PATCH v5 08/11] sched: Push put_prev_task() into pick_next_task() Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 11:45   ` [PATCH v5 11/11] sched: introduce cgroup file stat_percpu Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1357731938-8417-12-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-09 20:42       ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-09 21:10         ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 21:17           ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-09 21:27             ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]               ` <50EDE0AB.1030509-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23 14:26                 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20130109124220.ad9f1a54.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23 14:20           ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 14:41   ` [PATCH v5 00/11] per-cgroup cpu-stat Tejun Heo
2013-01-09 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] record per-cgroup number of context switches Glauber Costa
2013-01-09 11:45 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] sched: change nr_context_switches calculation Glauber Costa
2013-01-16  0:33 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] per-cgroup cpu-stat Colin Cross
2013-01-21 12:14   ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <50FD3123.6090003-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23  1:02       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20130123010226.GF5359-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23  1:53           ` Colin Cross
     [not found]             ` <CAMbhsRSDbKUz7OT3Y0bGfYqgp3yMgwk8oHx0rpsX+XDFWTMqkw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23  8:12               ` Glauber Costa
2013-01-23 16:56               ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-23 22:41                 ` Colin Cross
     [not found]                   ` <CAMbhsRRj9svWubn01wb+f=jSwVWC5u7DqJ5c8P23vAp0E2L8Rg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23 23:06                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <20130123230608.GJ2373-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23 23:53                         ` Colin Cross

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