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From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	lizefan@huawei.com, mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	richard@nod.at, "Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] cgroups: add a pids subsystem
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 07:32:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54FED651.6040100@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOviyah2KCu9K7D_H2zAf3LYbnj65P39YPmNamfA=-SSNq4hOg@mail.gmail.com>

On 2015-03-10 04:10, Aleksa Sarai wrote:
> Hi Austin,
>
>>> Does pids limit make sense in the root cgroup?
>>>
>> I would say it kind of does, although I would just expect it to track
>> /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max (either as a read-only value, or as an alternative
>> way to set it).
>
> Personally, that seems unintuitive. /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max and the pids
> cgroup controller are orthogonal features, why should they be able to affect
> each other (or even be aware of each other)?
I wouldn't consider them entirely orthogonal, the sysctl value is the 
limiting factor for the maximal value that can be set in a given pids 
cgroup.  Setting an unlimited value in the cgroup is functionally 
identical to setting it to be equal to /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max, and the 
root cgroup is functionally equivalent to /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max, 
because all tasks that aren't in another cgroup get put in the root.

My only thought is that having the file that would set the limit there 
might make things much simpler for software that expects the entire 
cgroup structure to be hierarchical.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-10 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-23  3:08 [PATCH RFC 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-02-23  3:08 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] cgroups: allow a cgroup subsystem to reject a fork Aleksa Sarai
2015-02-23 14:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-23  3:08 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] cgroups: add an nproc subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-02-27 11:49 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <20150227114940.GB3964-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 13:46     ` Richard Weinberger
     [not found]       ` <54F07525.4050100-/L3Ra7n9ekc@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 13:52         ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 16:42     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]       ` <54F09E62.8000007-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 17:06         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20150227170640.GK3964-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 17:25             ` Tim Hockin
2015-02-27 17:45               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20150227174503.GM3964-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 17:56                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 21:45                   ` Tim Hockin
2015-02-27 21:49                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <CAAAKZwsCc8BtFx58KMFpRTohU81oCBeGVOPGMJrjJt9q5upKfQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-28 16:57                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                           ` <20150228165706.GS3964-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-28 22:26                             ` Tim Hockin
     [not found]                               ` <CAAAKZwv=idxvrffHx2QyW=PGH4k42ckq-VLJGQrXkeQ6NmByRQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-28 22:50                                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                   ` <20150228225036.GA4597-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-01  4:46                                     ` Tim Hockin
2015-02-28 23:11                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-02-27 18:49             ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]               ` <54F0BC51.4050506-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 19:35                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-28  9:26                 ` Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]                   ` <CAOviyajSOY6kTiwTA+APf9VGT=Ui=0QQH6KUqwaxHB3ahuJk2g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-28 11:59                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <CAAAKZws45c3PhFQMGrm_K+OZV+KOyGV9sXTakHcTfNP1kHxzOQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                         ` <CAAAKZws45c3PhFQMGrm_K+OZV+KOyGV9sXTakHcTfNP1kHxzOQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-28 16:43                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-02 13:13                             ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]                               ` <54F461F3.3030903-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-02 13:31                                 ` Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]                                   ` <CAOviyahKJthwLTND51HhaRNB_KJC60T7HFHjdqPZf3pQmAUAhw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-02 13:54                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-02 13:49                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27 17:12       ` Tim Hockin
     [not found]         ` <CAO_RewbeTbMuqVG5wsui_gHwrdgqjF0KLk6yr5a3bb76VOkofg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 17:15           ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-04 20:23 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] cgroup: add pids subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-04 20:23   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] cgroups: allow a cgroup subsystem to reject a fork Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-04 20:23   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cgroups: add a pids subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-05  8:39     ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-05 14:37     ` Marian Marinov
     [not found] ` <1424660891-12719-1-git-send-email-cyphar-gVpy/LI/lHzQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27  4:17   ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]     ` <1425010639-16492-1-git-send-email-cyphar-gVpy/LI/lHzQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27  4:17       ` [PATCH v2 1/2] cgroups: allow a cgroup subsystem to reject a fork Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]         ` <1425010639-16492-2-git-send-email-cyphar-gVpy/LI/lHzQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-09  3:06           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <CAOviyaip7Faz98YWzGoTaXGYVb72sfD+ZL4Xa89reU9+=43jFA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <20150309065902.GP13283@htj.duckdns.org>
     [not found]                 ` <20150309065902.GP13283-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10  8:19                   ` Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]                     ` <CAOviyaj3mf66ho15WrD8qB=ECxKWYTAkWodxWaFVMWeZG4d0FQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10 12:47                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20150310124701.GB28730-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10 14:51                           ` Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]                             ` <CAOviyai7yJrbGb+uYpK35tw7R-KM0jWQ-BmhpyTqnRFJsVYdUA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10 15:17                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-11  5:16                                 ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-11 11:46                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-11 23:47                   ` Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]                     ` <CAOviyaj55Yqahz75Gy5=yjFteeKFp7746=80-Ufww2E62Ads_Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-12  1:25                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-02-27  4:17     ` [PATCH v2 2/2] cgroups: add an nproc subsystem Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]       ` <1425010639-16492-3-git-send-email-cyphar-gVpy/LI/lHzQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-02 15:22         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20150302152205.GC17694-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-09  1:49             ` Zefan Li
     [not found]               ` <54FCFC39.6050900-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-09  2:34                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-06  1:45   ` [PATCH v4 0/2] cgroup: add pids subsystem Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-06  1:45     ` [PATCH v4 1/2] cgroups: allow a cgroup subsystem to reject a fork Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]     ` <1425606357-6337-1-git-send-email-cyphar-gVpy/LI/lHzQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-06  1:45       ` [PATCH v4 2/2] cgroups: add a pids subsystem Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]         ` <1425606357-6337-3-git-send-email-cyphar-gVpy/LI/lHzQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-09  3:34           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20150309033405.GE13283-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-09  3:39               ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-09 18:58               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]                 ` <54FDED43.4050908-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-09 19:51                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-10  8:10                   ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-10 11:32                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <54FED651.6040100-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-10 12:31                         ` Aleksa Sarai
     [not found]                           ` <CAOviyagpCNcAN4hdhsxffdpE+yDmw+NXx+FikTe64GJ1hQeXhQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-11 15:13                             ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]                               ` <55005BAC.9060405-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-12  2:28                                 ` Aleksa Sarai
2015-03-12 15:35                                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-03-12  3:47                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-03-09  3:08       ` [PATCH v4 0/2] cgroup: add " Tejun Heo

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