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From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>, Yue Zhao <findns94@gmail.com>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: change memcg->oom_group access with atomic operations
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 15:22:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61CA5FFC-547B-4F56-9238-C9096223BF80@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6563189C-7765-4FFA-A8F2-A5CC4860A1EF@linux.dev>



> On Feb 21, 2023, at 13:17, Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2023, at 3:06 PM, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 01:09:44PM -0800, Roman Gushchin wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 11:16:38PM +0800, Yue Zhao wrote:
>>>> The knob for cgroup v2 memory controller: memory.oom.group
>>>> will be read and written simultaneously by user space
>>>> programs, thus we'd better change memcg->oom_group access
>>>> with atomic operations to avoid concurrency problems.
>>>> 
>>>> Signed-off-by: Yue Zhao <findns94@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> Hi Yue!
>>> 
>>> I'm curious, have any seen any real issues which your patch is solving?
>>> Can you, please, provide a bit more details.
>>> 
>> 
>> IMHO such details are not needed. oom_group is being accessed
>> concurrently and one of them can be a write access. At least
>> READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE is needed here.
> 
> Needed for what?
> 
> I mean it’s obviously not a big deal to put READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() here, but I struggle to imagine a scenario when it will make any difference. IMHO it’s easier to justify a proper atomic operation here, even if it’s most likely an overkill.
> 
> My question is very simple: the commit log mentions “… to avoid concurrency problems”, so I wonder what problems are these.

I think there is no difference in the assembly code between them in most
cases. The only intention that I can think of is to avoid the potential
complaint (data race) emitted by KCSAN.

> 
> Also there are other similar cgroup interfaces without READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE().

If we decide to fix, then we should fix all.

Thanks.

> 
> Thanks!



  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-20 15:16 [PATCH] mm: change memcg->oom_group access with atomic operations Yue Zhao
     [not found] ` <20230220151638.1371-1-findns94-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-20 21:09   ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-20 23:06     ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]       ` <20230220230624.lkobqeagycx7bi7p-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21  5:17         ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21  7:22           ` Muchun Song [this message]
     [not found]             ` <61CA5FFC-547B-4F56-9238-C9096223BF80-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21 17:48               ` Roman Gushchin
     [not found]           ` <6563189C-7765-4FFA-A8F2-A5CC4860A1EF-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21  6:52             ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]               ` <CALvZod55K5zbbVYptq8ud=nKVyU1xceGVf6UcambBZ3BA2TZqA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21 13:51                 ` Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]                   ` <Y/TMYa8DrocppXRu-FZi0V3Vbi30CUdFEqe4BF2D2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21 16:56                     ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]                       ` <CALvZod6UM1E6nGgfdORri90m3ju+yYeSeHBqyqutCP2A94WNKg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21 18:23                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 22:23                           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 22:38                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 23:13                               ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]                                 ` <CALvZod7DaFeXFjYpnuP8U3QOjsQmKFHDMruB1-cm3Ly0HOH2FQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21 23:38                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-21 23:57                                     ` Roman Gushchin
     [not found]                                       ` <Y/VahsJO3xNXi4CG-+xijCwNIfdoLQcUKs7qKB+WAnPUfkyWGUBSOeVevoDU@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-22  0:37                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-22  4:28                                           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 17:47                     ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21 18:15                       ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]                       ` <Y/UDmc3+uIErpanS-+xijCwNIfdoLQcUKs7qKB+WAnPUfkyWGUBSOeVevoDU@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21 18:18                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-22  9:01                   ` David Laight
2023-02-21 17:00                 ` Martin Zhao
2023-02-21 17:00             ` Martin Zhao
     [not found]               ` <CADfL_jBDNZiEWbnn+w9+FhSRPzVwP872XBbhYTZwny8Jzr4bDw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21 18:02                 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-02-21  8:26         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <Y/SAHfHsljuIRBJm-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-21 17:00             ` Martin Zhao

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