From: Ridong Chen <ridong.chen@linux.dev>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>, "Junnan Zhang" <zhangjn_dev@163.com>
Cc: tj@kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Junnan Zhang <zhangjn11@chinatelecom.cn>,
Shouxin Sun <sunshx@chinatelecom.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] cgroup: avoid flushing global workqueue in cgroup1_pidlist_destroy_all
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2026 09:53:07 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6322b8b3-fcf2-4052-979d-439f458d31bb@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apU1sXYP_QhsQFcB@localhost.localdomain>
On 8/31/2026 4:16 PM, Michal Koutný wrote:
> Hi Junnan.
>
> (Sorry for late response, I sketched some notes and then didn't get down
> to sent them. Now they're below.)
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2026 at 06:20:52PM +0800, Junnan Zhang <zhangjn_dev@163.com> wrote:
>> From: Junnan Zhang <zhangjn11@chinatelecom.cn>
>>
>> cgroup1_pidlist_destroy_all() flushes the global
>> cgroup_pidlist_destroy_wq while destroying a cgroup. Because all cgroup
>> v1 pidlist destruction work items are queued on the same shared workqueue,
>> a single slow or stuck work item (e.g. waiting for pidlist_mutex held by a
>> user-space reader) blocks every concurrent cgroup destruction path.
>>
>> This can lead to kworker tasks stuck in flush_workqueue() for over
>> hung_task_timeout seconds, as observed on busy systems running Docker or
>> Kubernetes workloads.
>
> Since the cgroup_pidlist_destroy_wq is already a dedicated workqueue (no
> other conteders), the pursuit of pidlist_mutex holder is a feasible
> theory. However, that would also mean:
> a) a single reader taking more than hung_task_timeout_secs (that'd be
> a softlockup earlier),
> b) starvation of cgroup1_pidlist_destroy_all() by many (queued)
> cgroup_pidlist_start() callers which goes against the second-long
> caching of pidlists,
> c) there is large number of nr_cgroups * nr_pidnses which makes the
> caching ineffective
>
>>
>> INFO: task kworker/0:1:1438499 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
>> "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message.
>> kworker/0:1 D 0 1438499 2 0x80000080
>> Workqueue: cgroup_destroy css_free_rwork_fn
>> ? __schedule+0x296/0x900
>> schedule+0x28/0x80
>> schedule_timeout+0x1ee/0x3a0
>> ? kvm_sched_clock_read+0xd/0x20
>> wait_for_completion+0x12c/0x190
>> ? wake_up_q+0x70/0x70
>> flush_workqueue+0x132/0x430
>> ? cgroup1_pidlist_destroy_all+0x7c/0xa0
>> cgroup1_pidlist_destroy_all+0x7c/0xa0
>> css_free_rwork_fn+0xb5/0x390
>> process_one_work+0x195/0x3e0
>> worker_thread+0x30/0x390
>> ? process_one_work+0x3e0/0x3e0
>> kthread+0x113/0x130
>> ? kthread_create_worker_on_cpu+0x70/0x70
>> ret_from_fork+0x1f/0x40
>>
I'm not sure we've found the real root cause yet, and the current analysis
doesn't convince me.
Shouldn't we first figure out why flush_workqueue() waited 120s? Was it because
there were too many pids, or because someone held pidlist_mutex for too long?
>> Fix it by moving the cgroup's pidlists to a local orphan list under
>> pidlist_mutex, clearing their ->owner pointer, and then cancelling each
>> pidlist's delayed work outside the lock. The destroy work function now
>> checks ->owner and skips freeing orphaned pidlists, so
>> cgroup1_pidlist_destroy_all() can free them safely without flushing the
>> whole shared workqueue.
>
> What's the point of the workqueue after this change? (Mainly the
> expiration + having process context for the handler.)
>
> The flushing isn't necessary if there's a way how to ensure pidlists
> head won't be used after cgrp removal, which the fix should achieve.
>
>
> So I'd say, the narrow-focused cancellation may work, no need to wait
> for other cgroups. OTOH, I'm surprised this v1-issue popped up only now
> and whether such a long contention can happen over pidlist_mutex as your
> commit message implies. What nr_cgroups, nr_pidnses could cause this in
> your theory?
>
> Thanks,
> Michal
--
Best regards
Ridong
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-01 1:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-14 8:40 [PATCH] cgroup: avoid flushing global workqueue in cgroup1_pidlist_destroy_all Junnan Zhang
2026-08-14 9:45 ` [PATCH v2] " Junnan Zhang
2026-08-14 10:20 ` [PATCH v3] " Junnan Zhang
2026-08-31 7:39 ` Junnan Zhang
2026-08-31 8:16 ` Michal Koutný
2026-09-01 1:53 ` Ridong Chen [this message]
2026-09-01 3:48 ` Junnan Zhang
2026-09-01 3:51 ` Junnan Zhang
[not found] ` <FIXME-fill-in-Michals-message-id>
2026-09-01 3:38 ` Junnan Zhang
2026-09-01 3:39 ` Junnan Zhang
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