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Subject: Re: RFC(v2): Audit Kernel Container IDs
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:33:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <75b7d6a6-42ba-2dff-1836-1091c7c024e7@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171012141359.saqdtnodwmbz33b2-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
On 10/12/2017 7:14 AM, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> Containers are a userspace concept. The kernel knows nothing of them.
>
> The Linux audit system needs a way to be able to track the container
> provenance of events and actions. Audit needs the kernel's help to do
> this.
>
> Since the concept of a container is entirely a userspace concept, a
> registration from the userspace container orchestration system initiates
> this. This will define a point in time and a set of resources
> associated with a particular container with an audit container ID.
>
> The registration is a pseudo filesystem (proc, since PID tree already
> exists) write of a u8[16] UUID representing the container ID to a file
> representing a process that will become the first process in a new
> container. This write might place restrictions on mount namespaces
> required to define a container, or at least careful checking of
> namespaces in the kernel to verify permissions of the orchestrator so it
> can't change its own container ID. A bind mount of nsfs may be
> necessary in the container orchestrator's mntNS.
> Note: Use a 128-bit scalar rather than a string to make compares faster
> and simpler.
>
> Require a new CAP_CONTAINER_ADMIN to be able to carry out the
> registration.
Hang on. If containers are a user space concept, how can
you want CAP_CONTAINER_ANYTHING? If there's not such thing as
a container, how can you be asking for a capability to manage
them?
> At that time, record the target container's user-supplied
> container identifier along with the target container's first process
> (which may become the target container's "init" process) process ID
> (referenced from the initial PID namespace), all namespace IDs (in the
> form of a nsfs device number and inode number tuple) in a new auxilliary
> record AUDIT_CONTAINER with a qualifying op=$action field.
>
> Issue a new auxilliary record AUDIT_CONTAINER_INFO for each valid
> container ID present on an auditable action or event.
>
> Forked and cloned processes inherit their parent's container ID,
> referenced in the process' task_struct.
>
> Mimic setns(2) and return an error if the process has already initiated
> threading or forked since this registration should happen before the
> process execution is started by the orchestrator and hence should not
> yet have any threads or children. If this is deemed overly restrictive,
> switch all threads and children to the new containerID.
>
> Trust the orchestrator to judiciously use and restrict CAP_CONTAINER_ADMIN.
>
> Log the creation of every namespace, inheriting/adding its spawning
> process' containerID(s), if applicable. Include the spawning and
> spawned namespace IDs (device and inode number tuples).
> [AUDIT_NS_CREATE, AUDIT_NS_DESTROY] [clone(2), unshare(2), setns(2)]
> Note: At this point it appears only network namespaces may need to track
> container IDs apart from processes since incoming packets may cause an
> auditable event before being associated with a process.
>
> Log the destruction of every namespace when it is no longer used by any
> process, include the namespace IDs (device and inode number tuples).
> [AUDIT_NS_DESTROY] [process exit, unshare(2), setns(2)]
>
> Issue a new auxilliary record AUDIT_NS_CHANGE listing (opt: op=$action)
> the parent and child namespace IDs for any changes to a process'
> namespaces. [setns(2)]
> Note: It may be possible to combine AUDIT_NS_* record formats and
> distinguish them with an op=$action field depending on the fields
> required for each message type.
>
> When a container ceases to exist because the last process in that
> container has exited and hence the last namespace has been destroyed and
> its refcount dropping to zero, log the fact.
> (This latter is likely needed for certification accountability.) A
> container object may need a list of processes and/or namespaces.
>
> A namespace cannot directly migrate from one container to another but
> could be assigned to a newly spawned container. A namespace can be
> moved from one container to another indirectly by having that namespace
> used in a second process in another container and then ending all the
> processes in the first container.
>
> (v2)
> - switch from u64 to u128 UUID
> - switch from "signal" and "trigger" to "register"
> - restrict registration to single process or force all threads and children into same container
>
> - RGB
>
> --
> Richard Guy Briggs <rgb-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> Sr. S/W Engineer, Kernel Security, Base Operating Systems
> Remote, Ottawa, Red Hat Canada
> IRC: rgb, SunRaycer
> Voice: +1.647.777.2635, Internal: (81) 32635
>
> --
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>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-12 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-12 14:14 RFC(v2): Audit Kernel Container IDs Richard Guy Briggs
2017-10-12 15:45 ` Steve Grubb
2017-10-19 19:57 ` Richard Guy Briggs
[not found] ` <20171019195747.4ssujtaj3f5ipsoh-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 23:11 ` Aleksa Sarai
2017-10-19 23:15 ` Aleksa Sarai
[not found] ` <8f495870-dd6c-23b9-b82b-4228a441c729-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-20 2:25 ` Steve Grubb
[not found] ` <20171012141359.saqdtnodwmbz33b2-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-12 16:33 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2017-10-17 0:33 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-10-17 1:10 ` Casey Schaufler
[not found] ` <81c15928-c445-fb8e-251c-bee566fbbf58-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 0:05 ` Richard Guy Briggs
[not found] ` <20171019000527.eio6dfsmujmtioyt-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 13:32 ` Casey Schaufler
2017-10-19 15:51 ` Paul Moore
[not found] ` <20171017003340.whjdkqmkw4lydwy7-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 1:42 ` Steve Grubb
2017-10-17 12:31 ` Simo Sorce
2017-10-17 14:59 ` Casey Schaufler
[not found] ` <a07968f6-fef1-f49d-01f1-6c660c0ada20-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 15:28 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1508254120.6230.34.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-17 15:44 ` James Bottomley
2017-10-17 16:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2017-10-17 17:15 ` Steve Grubb
2017-10-17 17:57 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1508263063.3129.35.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-18 0:23 ` Steve Grubb
[not found] ` <1508255091.3129.27.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-18 20:56 ` Paul Moore
[not found] ` <CAHC9VhRV9m6-APj3ofMQc22rL-WUoDzB8-urUxryszjCHHHLTg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-18 23:46 ` Aleksa Sarai
[not found] ` <49752b6f-8a77-d1e5-8acb-5a1eed0a992c-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 0:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <871sm0j7bm.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 15:36 ` Paul Moore
[not found] ` <CAHC9VhTYF-MJm3ejWXE1H-eeXKaNBkeWKwdiKdj093xATYn7nQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 16:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-10-19 17:47 ` Paul Moore
2017-10-17 16:10 ` Casey Schaufler
2017-10-18 19:58 ` Paul Moore
[not found] ` <75b7d6a6-42ba-2dff-1836-1091c7c024e7-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-09 10:20 ` Mickaël Salaün
[not found] ` <7ebca85a-425c-2b95-9a5f-59d81707339e-WFhQfpSGs3bR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-09 18:28 ` Casey Schaufler
2017-12-11 16:30 ` Eric Paris
2017-12-11 16:52 ` Casey Schaufler
[not found] ` <1513009857.6310.337.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-11 19:37 ` Steve Grubb
2017-12-11 15:10 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-10-12 17:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-10-13 13:43 ` Alan Cox
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