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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "Haitao Huang" <haitao.huang@linux.intel.com>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: "Christopherson,, Sean" <seanjc@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 12/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC OOM path to forcefully reclaim EPC
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 08:37:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a1a5125-9da2-47b6-ba0f-cf24d84df16b@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.2c0nt109wjvjmi@hhuan26-mobl.amr.corp.intel.com>

On 10/18/23 08:26, Haitao Huang wrote:
> Maybe not in sense of killing something. My understanding memory.reclaim
> does not necessarily invoke the OOM killer. But what I really intend to
> say is we can have a separate knob for user to express the need for
> reducing the current usage explicitly and keep "misc.max' non-preemptive
> semantics intact. When we implement that new knob, then we can define
> what kind of reclaim for that. Depending on vEPC implementation, it may
> or may not involve killing VMs. But at least that semantics will be
> explicit for user.

I'm really worried that you're going for "perfect" semantics here.  This
is SGX.  It's *NOT* getting heavy use and even fewer folks will ever
apply cgroup controls to it.

Can we please stick to simple, easily-coded rules here?  I honestly
don't think these corner cases matter all that much and there's been
*WAY* too much traffic in this thread for what is ultimately not that
complicated.  Focus on *ONE* thing:

1. Admin sets a limit
2. Enclave is created
3. Enclave hits limit, allocation fails

Nothing else matters.  What if the admin lowers the limit on an
already-created enclave?  Nobody cares.  Seriously.  What about inducing
reclaim?  Nobody cares.  What about vEPC?  Doesn't matter, an enclave
page is an enclave page.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-18 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23  3:06 [PATCH v5 00/18] Add Cgroup support for SGX EPC memory Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] x86/sgx: Add sgx_epc_lru_lists to encapsulate LRU lists Haitao Huang
     [not found] ` <20230923030657.16148-1-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 01/18] cgroup/misc: Add per resource callbacks for CSS events Haitao Huang
     [not found]     ` <20230923030657.16148-2-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-25 17:09       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-25 17:09         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26  3:04         ` Haitao Huang
     [not found]           ` <op.2buytfetwjvjmi-yDQzE4XY+yVaPPhiJ6yCxLKMmGWinSIL2HeeBUIffwg@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-26 13:10             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26 13:10               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26 13:13               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-26 13:13                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27  1:56                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-02 22:47                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-02 22:55                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-04 15:45                       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 17:18                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-27  9:20     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03 14:29       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 18:55     ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 02/18] cgroup/misc: Add SGX EPC resource type and export APIs for SGX driver Haitao Huang
     [not found]     ` <20230923030657.16148-3-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-25 18:50       ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-25 18:50         ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-28  3:59     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  7:00       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 19:33         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 04/18] x86/sgx: Use sgx_epc_lru_lists for existing active page list Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 05/18] x86/sgx: Store reclaimable EPC pages in sgx_epc_lru_lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 10:14     ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 06/18] x86/sgx: Introduce EPC page states Haitao Huang
     [not found]     ` <20230923030657.16148-7-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-25 17:11       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-25 17:11         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27 10:28     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  4:49       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:03         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-04 15:24           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 21:05             ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 07/18] x86/sgx: Introduce RECLAIM_IN_PROGRESS state Haitao Huang
2023-09-25 17:13     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-25 17:13       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-27 10:42     ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 08/18] x86/sgx: Use a list to track to-be-reclaimed pages Haitao Huang
2023-09-28  9:28     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  5:09       ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 09/18] x86/sgx: Store struct sgx_encl when allocating new VA pages Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 11:14     ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-27 15:35       ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 21:21         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-29 15:06           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-02 11:05             ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-27 11:35     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  6:45       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:07         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-04 15:03           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-04 21:13             ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05  4:22               ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05  6:49                 ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 10/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC page flags to identify owner types Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 11/18] x86/sgx: store unreclaimable pages in LRU lists Haitao Huang
2023-09-27 11:57     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  5:42       ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-28  9:41     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-03  5:15       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-03 20:12         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 12/18] x86/sgx: Add EPC OOM path to forcefully reclaim EPC Haitao Huang
2023-10-09 23:45     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:23       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-10  0:50         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  1:34           ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 16:49             ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11  0:51               ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-12 13:27                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 10:57                   ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-16 19:52                     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 21:09                       ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17  0:10                         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17  1:34                           ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17 12:58                             ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 18:54                               ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-17 19:13                                 ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-18  4:39                                   ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18  4:37                                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18 13:55                                   ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-18 15:26                                     ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-18 15:37                                       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2023-10-18 15:52                                         ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-18 16:25                                           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-16 21:32                       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-17  0:09                         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-17 15:43                           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-17 11:49                         ` Mikko Ylinen
2023-10-11  1:14               ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-16 11:02                 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  1:42         ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  2:23           ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 13:26             ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11  0:01               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-11 15:02                 ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  1:04       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  1:18         ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  1:38           ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  2:12             ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10 17:05               ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-11  0:31                 ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-11 16:04                   ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 13/18] x86/sgx: Expose sgx_reclaim_pages() for use by EPC cgroup Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 12:24     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05 19:23       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 20:25         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 14/18] x86/sgx: Add helper to grab pages from an arbitrary EPC LRU Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 15/18] x86/sgx: Prepare for multiple LRUs Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 12:30     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-05 19:33       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-05 20:38         ` Huang, Kai
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 16/18] x86/sgx: Limit process EPC usage with misc cgroup controller Haitao Huang
     [not found]     ` <20230923030657.16148-17-haitao.huang-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2023-09-25 17:15       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-09-25 17:15         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-10-05 21:01     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:12     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:16     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  0:26     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-22 18:26       ` Haitao Huang
2023-10-10  9:19     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-10  9:32     ` Huang, Kai
2023-10-17 18:54     ` Michal Koutný
2023-10-19 16:05       ` Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 17/18] Docs/x86/sgx: Add description for cgroup support Haitao Huang
2023-09-23  3:06   ` [PATCH v5 18/18] selftests/sgx: Add scripts for EPC cgroup testing Haitao Huang

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