From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
Simo Sorce <ssorce-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Network Development
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Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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kay-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:54:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3bw1glx.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140313142755.GC18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> (Vivek Goyal's message of "Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:27:55 -0400")
Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 07:12:25PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>
>> I can think of at least three other ways to do this.
>>
>> 1. Fix Docker to use user namespaces and use the uid of the requesting
>> process via SCM_CREDENTIALS.
>
> Using user namespaces sounds like the right way to do it (atleast
> conceptually). But I think hurdle here is that people are not convinced
> yet that user namespaces are secure and work well. IOW, some people
> don't seem to think that user namespaces are ready yet.
If the problem is user namespace immaturity patches or bug reports need
to be sent for user namespaces.
Containers with user namespaces (however immature they are) are much
more secure than running container with processes with uid == 0 inside
of them. User namespaces do considerably reduce the attack surface of
what uid == 0 can do.
> I guess that's the reason people are looking for other ways to
> achieve their goal.
It seems strange to work around a feature that is 99% of the way to
solving their problem with more kernel patches.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-14 23:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-12 20:46 [PATCH 0/2][V2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP to get cgroup of peer Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 20:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] cgroup: Provide empty definition of task_cgroup_path() Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 20:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 20:58 ` Cong Wang
[not found] ` <CAHA+R7OrNoa7_J-rOskxgdvkM5gAnQyoFBeCXSziY7XMd-yLNA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 13:48 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <1394657163-7472-3-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 21:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-12 21:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrUTjN=XKwnO62P9roZtLLuk7_9Oi17Mj_Aa2ZFtZc1gVA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 21:16 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394658983.32465.203.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 21:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrU29CpcK4dVRD45BGOD7AVEudADiFxOgFgKWkpFzw07eg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 1:17 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394673476.32465.215.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 1:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWbCuKfV4zMkZajDOGhGkKduW0C2L7uHv=vtvqhVeAc6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 1:43 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394675038.32465.223.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 2:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 14:27 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313142755.GC18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-14 23:54 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
[not found] ` <CALCETrV7GE0YL1sDDqTUV81rWL9zk2vTR1-VLkR7CfTA-FSrgw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 17:51 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 17:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXWzja6W6y=p9MrtynGZMsrD5KQu0KBK6Bs1dQxnesv2A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 17:57 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394733448.32465.249.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 18:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 17:58 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 18:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 18:05 ` Tim Hockin
2014-03-13 19:53 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 19:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 20:06 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313200649.GN18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 20:17 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313201755.GO18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 20:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 21:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-14 23:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-03-13 18:02 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 14:14 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313141422.GB18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 14:55 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394722534.32465.227.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 15:00 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313150034.GG18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 16:33 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 17:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 17:55 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 17:56 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <1394657163-7472-1-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 20:56 ` [PATCH 0/2][V2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP to get cgroup of peer Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-12 20:59 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394657970.32465.200.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 21:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-03-12 18:45 [PATCH 0/2] " Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 18:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
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