From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/vmscan: respect cpuset policy during page demotion
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 15:39:00 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7txk963.fsf@yhuang6-desk2.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1ou5DGHrEsKnhri-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org> (Michal Hocko's message of "Thu, 27 Oct 2022 09:10:28 +0200")
Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org> writes:
> On Thu 27-10-22 14:47:22, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org> writes:
> [...]
>> > I can imagine workloads which wouldn't like to get their memory demoted
>> > for some reason but wouldn't it be more practical to tell that
>> > explicitly (e.g. via prctl) rather than configuring cpusets/memory
>> > policies explicitly?
>>
>> If my understanding were correct, prctl() configures the process or
>> thread.
>
> Not necessarily. There are properties which are per adddress space like
> PR_[GS]ET_THP_DISABLE. This could be very similar.
>
>> How can we get process/thread configuration at demotion time?
>
> As already pointed out in previous emails. You could hook into
> folio_check_references path, more specifically folio_referenced_one
> where you have all that you need already - all vmas mapping the page and
> then it is trivial to get the corresponding vm_mm. If at least one of
> them has the flag set then the demotion is not allowed (essentially the
> same model as VM_LOCKED).
Got it! Thanks for detailed explanation.
One bit may be not sufficient. For example, if we want to avoid or
control cross-socket demotion and still allow demoting to slow memory
nodes in local socket, we need to specify a node mask to exclude some
NUMA nodes from demotion targets.
From overhead point of view, this appears similar as that of VMA/task
memory policy? We can make mm->owner available for memory tiers
(CONFIG_NUMA && CONFIG_MIGRATION). The advantage is that we don't need
to introduce new ABI. I guess users may prefer to use `numactl` than a
new ABI?
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-27 7:39 UTC|newest]
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2022-10-26 7:43 [PATCH] mm/vmscan: respect cpuset policy during page demotion Feng Tang
[not found] ` <20221026074343.6517-1-feng.tang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-26 7:49 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
[not found] ` <dc453287-015d-fd1c-fe7f-6ee45772d6aa-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-26 8:00 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26 9:19 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1j7tsj5M0Md/+Er-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-26 10:42 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
[not found] ` <d17698d2-c1b5-9aa3-6271-838830d36cc5-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-26 11:02 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1kTz1qjfsY1UBPf-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-26 12:08 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
[not found] ` <44e485d4-acf5-865d-17fe-13be1c1b430b-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-26 12:21 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1kmOaXvzwRv/tza-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-26 12:35 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
[not found] ` <22590f74-ec91-e673-32df-8a04b4ab3931-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 9:02 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1pJG+d+kXJgjNMc-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 10:16 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
[not found] ` <5a6c29f9-1154-03af-c22e-55108feb155f-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 13:05 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-26 12:20 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26 15:59 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1lZV6qHp3gIINGc-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-26 17:57 ` Yang Shi
[not found] ` <CAHbLzkppDPm87dx9-a7t3oP9DuZ0xCPC1UWr+E-s+vh12Gwb+w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 7:11 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 7:45 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <87k04lk8vr.fsf-fFUE1NP8JkzwuUmzmnQr+vooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 7:51 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 17:55 ` Yang Shi
[not found] ` <CAHbLzkqvh3ry=FjQGuG--As2yYF2NU+bfvORqk1FyfE_vvTwXw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-28 3:37 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-28 5:54 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <87y1t0ijbk.fsf-fFUE1NP8JkzwuUmzmnQr+vooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-28 17:23 ` Yang Shi
[not found] ` <CAHbLzkpO46yTiSVrKWRnABNW_PutuudEkB3RD-_YKxamW9SyaA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-31 1:56 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-31 2:19 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-28 5:09 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
[not found] ` <7b5f533d-4b2e-b45b-ee42-5e1cc3e8a279-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-28 17:16 ` Yang Shi
[not found] ` <CAHbLzkrqaCF8wvtsAmvaZUqCAoRfO1qPSFyK7bVq5O5m1zuksg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-31 1:53 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-27 6:47 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <87wn8lkbk5.fsf-fFUE1NP8JkzwuUmzmnQr+vooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 7:10 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1ou5DGHrEsKnhri-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 7:39 ` Huang, Ying [this message]
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2022-10-27 8:01 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1o63SWD2KmQkT3v-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 9:31 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <87fsf9k3yg.fsf-fFUE1NP8JkzwuUmzmnQr+vooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 12:29 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1p5vaN1AWhpNWZx-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 23:22 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <87bkpwkg24.fsf-fFUE1NP8JkzwuUmzmnQr+vooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-31 8:40 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1+J7+1V1nJXF+3b-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-31 8:51 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <87wn8gcr5s.fsf-fFUE1NP8JkzwuUmzmnQr+vooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-31 9:18 ` Michal Hocko
2022-10-31 14:09 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-31 14:32 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <Y1/cgrgdVP+KdYzf-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-11-07 8:05 ` Feng Tang
2022-11-07 8:17 ` Michal Hocko
2022-11-01 3:17 ` Huang, Ying
2022-10-26 8:26 ` Yin, Fengwei
[not found] ` <22f86189-76fa-61ab-4e80-9c2740ec8e8a-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-26 8:37 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-26 14:36 ` Waiman Long
[not found] ` <da533477-da08-88cb-1e76-46364f1a6151-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 5:57 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 5:13 ` Huang, Ying
[not found] ` <878rl1luh1.fsf-fFUE1NP8JkzwuUmzmnQr+vooFf0ArEBIu+b9c/7xato@public.gmane.org>
2022-10-27 5:49 ` Feng Tang
2022-10-27 6:05 ` Huang, Ying
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