From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 4/4] UNFINISHED mm, fs: use kmem_cache_charge() in path_openat()
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 10:22:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8aa61329-dc3c-46f2-9db5-6e0770fbedda@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZeIkKrS7HK6ENwbw@P9FQF9L96D.corp.robot.car>
On 3/1/24 19:53, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 09:51:18AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> What I *think* I'd want for this case is
>>
>> (a) allow the accounting to go over by a bit
>>
>> (b) make sure there's a cheap way to ask (before) about "did we go
>> over the limit"
>>
>> IOW, the accounting never needed to be byte-accurate to begin with,
>> and making it fail (cheaply and early) on the next file allocation is
>> fine.
>>
>> Just make it really cheap. Can we do that?
>>
>> For example, maybe don't bother with the whole "bytes and pages"
>> stuff. Just a simple "are we more than one page over?" kind of
>> question. Without the 'stock_lock' mess for sub-page bytes etc
>>
>> How would that look? Would it result in something that can be done
>> cheaply without locking and atomics and without excessive pointer
>> indirection through many levels of memcg data structures?
>
> I think it's possible and I'm currently looking into batching charge,
> objcg refcnt management and vmstats using per-task caching. It should
> speed up things for the majority of allocations.
> For allocations from an irq context and targeted allocations
> (where the target memcg != memcg of the current task) we'd probably need to
> keep the old scheme. I hope to post some patches relatively soon.
Do you think this will work on top of this series, i.e. patches 1+2 could be
eventually put to slab/for-next after the merge window, or would it
interfere with your changes?
> I tried to optimize the current implementation but failed to get any
> significant gains. It seems that the overhead is very evenly spread across
> objcg pointer access, charge management, objcg refcnt management and vmstats.
>
> Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-12 9:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-01 17:07 [PATCH RFC 0/4] memcg_kmem hooks refactoring and kmem_cache_charge() Vlastimil Babka
2024-03-01 17:07 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm, slab: move memcg charging to post-alloc hook Vlastimil Babka
2024-03-12 18:52 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-03-12 18:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-12 20:35 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-03-13 10:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-03-13 17:34 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-03-15 3:23 ` Chengming Zhou
2024-03-01 17:07 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] mm, slab: move slab_memcg hooks to mm/memcontrol.c Vlastimil Babka
2024-03-12 18:56 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-03-12 19:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-12 20:36 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-03-01 17:07 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] mm, slab: introduce kmem_cache_charge() Vlastimil Babka
2024-03-01 17:07 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] UNFINISHED mm, fs: use kmem_cache_charge() in path_openat() Vlastimil Babka
2024-03-01 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-01 18:53 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-03-12 9:22 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2024-03-12 19:05 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-03-04 12:47 ` Christian Brauner
2024-03-24 2:27 ` Al Viro
2024-03-24 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
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