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From: Waiman Long <longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Muchun Song <songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
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	duanxiongchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/11] mm: memcontrol: make lruvec lock safe when LRU pages are reparented
Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 16:17:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9fe57cf7-9d21-3f91-ef27-e046b426c219@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yo5NdncOsqL0xP8Q-t1y1lxtqHnkkxugUQmjJ3WroNbXEc4rFQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>

On 5/25/22 11:38, Muchun Song wrote:
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 10:48:54AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 09:03:59PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 08:30:15AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 05:53:30PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 03:27:20PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 02:05:43PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>>>>>> @@ -1230,10 +1213,23 @@ void lruvec_memcg_debug(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct folio *folio)
>>>>>>>    */
>>>>>>>   struct lruvec *folio_lruvec_lock(struct folio *folio)
>>>>>>>   {
>>>>>>> -	struct lruvec *lruvec = folio_lruvec(folio);
>>>>>>> +	struct lruvec *lruvec;
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> +	rcu_read_lock();
>>>>>>> +retry:
>>>>>>> +	lruvec = folio_lruvec(folio);
>>>>>>>   	spin_lock(&lruvec->lru_lock);
>>>>>>> -	lruvec_memcg_debug(lruvec, folio);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +	if (unlikely(lruvec_memcg(lruvec) != folio_memcg(folio))) {
>>>>>>> +		spin_unlock(&lruvec->lru_lock);
>>>>>>> +		goto retry;
>>>>>>> +	}
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +	/*
>>>>>>> +	 * Preemption is disabled in the internal of spin_lock, which can serve
>>>>>>> +	 * as RCU read-side critical sections.
>>>>>>> +	 */
>>>>>>> +	rcu_read_unlock();
>>>>>> The code looks right to me, but I don't understand the comment: why do
>>>>>> we care that the rcu read-side continues? With the lru_lock held,
>>>>>> reparenting is on hold and the lruvec cannot be rcu-freed anyway, no?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Right. We could hold rcu read lock until end of reparting.  So you mean
>>>>> we do rcu_read_unlock in folio_lruvec_lock()?
>>>> The comment seems to suggest that disabling preemption is what keeps
>>>> the lruvec alive. But it's the lru_lock that keeps it alive. The
>>>> cgroup destruction path tries to take the lru_lock long before it even
>>>> gets to synchronize_rcu(). Once you hold the lru_lock, having an
>>>> implied read-side critical section as well doesn't seem to matter.
>>>>
>>> Well, I thought that spinlocks have implicit read-side critical sections
>>> because it disables preemption (I learned from the comments above
>>> synchronize_rcu() that says interrupts, preemption, or softirqs have been
>>> disabled also serve as RCU read-side critical sections).  So I have a
>>> question: is it still true in a PREEMPT_RT kernel (I am not familiar with
>>> this)?
>> Yes, but you're missing my point.
>>
>>>> Should the comment be deleted?
>>> I think we could remove the comments. If the above question is false, seems
>>> like we should continue holding rcu read lock.
>> It's true.
>>
> Thanks for your answer.
>
>> But assume it's false for a second. Why would you need to continue
>> holding it? What would it protect? The lruvec would be pinned by the
>> spinlock even if it DIDN'T imply an RCU lock, right?
>>
>> So I don't understand the point of the comment. If the implied RCU
>> lock is protecting something not covered by the bare spinlock itself,
>> it should be added to the comment. Otherwise, the comment should go.
>>
> Got it. Thanks for your nice explanation. I'll remove
> the comment here.

Note that there is a similar comment in patch 6 which may have to be 
removed as well.

Cheers,
Longman


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-26 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-24  6:05 [PATCH v4 00/11] Use obj_cgroup APIs to charge the LRU pages Muchun Song
     [not found] ` <20220524060551.80037-1-songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 01/11] mm: memcontrol: prepare objcg API for non-kmem usage Muchun Song
     [not found]     ` <20220524060551.80037-2-songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-24 19:01       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]         ` <Yo0rhX2LFNPTv47b-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25  8:46           ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25  2:36       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25  7:57         ` Muchun Song
     [not found]           ` <Yo3hXe8bF3boWx5C-t1y1lxtqHnnw2QbUemf3bixXY32XiHfO@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 12:37             ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]               ` <Yo4jJjBksFVeJHxA-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 13:08                 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 02/11] mm: memcontrol: introduce compact_folio_lruvec_lock_irqsave Muchun Song
     [not found]     ` <20220524060551.80037-3-songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-24 19:22       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]         ` <Yo0wj9OAPptmUoWM-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25  9:38           ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 03/11] mm: memcontrol: make lruvec lock safe when LRU pages are reparented Muchun Song
2022-05-24 19:23     ` Waiman Long
     [not found]       ` <f55976e6-d209-32c2-504d-f73a9b504511-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 10:20         ` Muchun Song
     [not found]           ` <Yo4C6T56O7EBADbX-t1y1lxtqHnkkxugUQmjJ3WroNbXEc4rFQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 14:59             ` Waiman Long
     [not found]     ` <20220524060551.80037-4-songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-24 19:27       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]         ` <Yo0xmKOkBkhRy+bq-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25  9:53           ` Muchun Song
     [not found]             ` <Yo38mlkMBFz2h+yP-t1y1lxtqHnkkxugUQmjJ3WroNbXEc4rFQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 12:30               ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                 ` <Yo4hVw7B+bUlMzLX-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 13:03                   ` Muchun Song
     [not found]                     ` <Yo4pPw+IHPBZvZUv-t1y1lxtqHnkkxugUQmjJ3WroNbXEc4rFQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 14:48                       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                         ` <Yo5B1tLcYPUoaACS-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 15:38                           ` Muchun Song
     [not found]                             ` <Yo5NdncOsqL0xP8Q-t1y1lxtqHnkkxugUQmjJ3WroNbXEc4rFQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-26 20:17                               ` Waiman Long [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <9fe57cf7-9d21-3f91-ef27-e046b426c219-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-27  2:55                                   ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 04/11] mm: vmscan: rework move_pages_to_lru() Muchun Song
     [not found]     ` <20220524060551.80037-5-songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-24 19:38       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]         ` <Yo00Svsy/N8cJVmf-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 11:38           ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24 19:52       ` Waiman Long
     [not found]         ` <78de6197-7de6-9fe7-9567-1321c06c6e9b-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 11:43           ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25  2:43       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25 11:41         ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 05/11] mm: thp: introduce folio_split_queue_lock{_irqsave}() Muchun Song
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 06/11] mm: thp: make split queue lock safe when LRU pages are reparented Muchun Song
     [not found]     ` <20220524060551.80037-7-songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25  2:54       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25 11:44         ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 07/11] mm: memcontrol: make all the callers of {folio,page}_memcg() safe Muchun Song
     [not found]     ` <20220524060551.80037-8-songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25  3:03       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25 11:51         ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 08/11] mm: memcontrol: introduce memcg_reparent_ops Muchun Song
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 09/11] mm: memcontrol: use obj_cgroup APIs to charge the LRU pages Muchun Song
2022-05-24 12:29     ` kernel test robot
     [not found]     ` <20220524060551.80037-10-songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-24 18:16       ` kernel test robot
2022-05-25  7:14     ` [mm] bec0ae1210: WARNING:possible_recursive_locking_detected kernel test robot
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 10/11] mm: lru: add VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO to lru maintenance function Muchun Song
     [not found]     ` <20220524060551.80037-11-songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-24 19:44       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]         ` <Yo01ghDEu4KcYKpH-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-25 11:59           ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25  2:40       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25 11:58         ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24  6:05   ` [PATCH v4 11/11] mm: lru: use lruvec lock to serialize memcg changes Muchun Song

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