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From: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Neal Cardwell" <ncardwell@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
	"Matthieu Baerts" <matttbe@kernel.org>,
	"Mat Martineau" <martineau@kernel.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Geliang Tang" <geliang@kernel.org>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuni1840@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, mptcp@lists.linux.dev,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 net-next 13/13] net-memcg: Allow decoupling memcg from global protocol memory accounting.
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 11:50:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAVpQUD36Wq7xcmdpeqCb3qpTzR7ZUDa=U4rUrfy7+JiE47Rsg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250724184902.139eff3c@kernel.org>

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 6:49 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 11:06:14 -0700 Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> > > 3. Will there ever be a reasonable use-case where there is non-isolated
> > >    sub-tree under an isolated ancestor?
> >
> > I think no, but again, we need to think about the scenario above,
> > otherwise, your ideal semantics is just broken.
> >
> > Also, "no reasonable scenario" does not always mean "we must
> > prevent the scenario".
> >
> > If there's nothing harmful, we can just let it be, especially if such
> > restriction gives nothing andrather hurts performance with no
> > good reason.
>
> Stating the obvious perhaps but it's probably too late in the release
> cycle to get enough agreement here to merge the series. So I'll mark
> it as Deferred.

Fair enough.

>
> While I'm typing, TBH I'm not sure I'm following the arguments about
> making the property hierarchical. Since the memory limit gets inherited
> I don't understand why the property of being isolated would not.
> Either I don't understand the memcg enough, or I don't understand your
> intended semantics. Anyway..

Inheriting a config is easy, but keeping the hierarchy complete isn't,
or maybe I'm thinking too hard :S

[root@fedora ~]# mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/test1
[root@fedora ~]# mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/test1/test2
[root@fedora ~]# echo +memory > /sys/fs/cgroup/test1/cgroup.subtree_control
[root@fedora ~]# echo 10000 > /sys/fs/cgroup/test1/test2/memory.max
[root@fedora ~]# echo 1000 > /sys/fs/cgroup/test1/memory.max
[  108.130895] bash invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0xcc0(GFP_KERNEL),
order=0, oom_score_adj=0
...
[  108.260164] Out of memory and no killable processes...
[root@fedora ~]# cat /sys/fs/cgroup/test1/test2/memory.max
8192
[root@fedora ~]# cat /sys/fs/cgroup/test1/memory.max
0

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-21 20:35 [PATCH v1 net-next 00/13] net-memcg: Allow decoupling memcg from sk->sk_prot->memory_allocated Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 01/13] mptcp: Fix up subflow's memcg when CONFIG_SOCK_CGROUP_DATA=n Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:30   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 02/13] mptcp: Use tcp_under_memory_pressure() in mptcp_epollin_ready() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:33   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 03/13] tcp: Simplify error path in inet_csk_accept() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:34   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 04/13] net: Call trace_sock_exceed_buf_limit() for memcg failure with SK_MEM_RECV Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:37   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 05/13] net: Clean up __sk_mem_raise_allocated() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:38   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 06/13] net-memcg: Introduce mem_cgroup_from_sk() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:39   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 07/13] net-memcg: Introduce mem_cgroup_sk_enabled() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:40   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 08/13] net-memcg: Pass struct sock to mem_cgroup_sk_(un)?charge() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:56   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 09/13] net-memcg: Pass struct sock to mem_cgroup_sk_under_memory_pressure() Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:58   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 10/13] net: Define sk_memcg under CONFIG_MEMCG Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 14:58   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 11/13] net-memcg: Add memory.socket_isolated knob Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 15:00   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-31 13:39   ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 12/13] net-memcg: Store memcg->socket_isolated in sk->sk_memcg Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 15:02   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-21 20:35 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 13/13] net-memcg: Allow decoupling memcg from global protocol memory accounting Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 15:14   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 15:24     ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-22 15:52       ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 18:18         ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 18:47           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 19:03             ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 19:56               ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 21:59                 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-23  0:29                   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-23  2:35                     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-23 17:28                       ` Shakeel Butt
2025-07-23 18:06                         ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-25  1:49                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-07-25 18:50                             ` Kuniyuki Iwashima [this message]
2025-07-28 16:07   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-07-28 21:41     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-29 14:22       ` Johannes Weiner
2025-07-29 19:41         ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-31  2:58   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-07-31 13:38   ` Michal Koutný
2025-07-31 23:51     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-08-01  7:00       ` Michal Koutný
2025-08-01 16:27         ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2025-07-22 15:04 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 00/13] net-memcg: Allow decoupling memcg from sk->sk_prot->memory_allocated Shakeel Butt
2025-07-22 15:34   ` Eric Dumazet

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