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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 10/19] net: skb: Switch to using vm_account
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 09:14:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+D9Gkuo1/l0Ty9W@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rhbflcs.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 03:36:49PM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:

> >> But then I don't really know how RDS works, Santos?
> >>
> >> Regardless, maybe the vm_account should be stored in the
> >> rds_msg_zcopy_info ?
> >
> > On first glance that looks like a better spot. Thanks for the
> > idea.
> 
> That works fine for RDS but not for skbuff. 

I would definately put the RDS stuff like that..

> We still need a vm_account in the struct sock or somewhere else for
> that. For example in msg_zerocopy_realloc() we only have a struct
> ubuf_info_msgzc available. We can't add a struct vm_account field to
> that because ultimately it is stored in struct sk_buff->ck[] which
> is not large enough to contain ubuf_info_msgzc + vm_account.

Well, AFAICT this is using iov_iter to get the pages and in general
iov_iter - eg as used for O_DIRECT - doesn't charge anything.

If this does somehow allow a userspace to hold pin a page for a long
time then it is already technically wrong because it doesn't use
FOLL_LONGTERM.

Arguably FOLL_LONGTERM should be the key precondition to require
accounting.

So I wonder if it should just be deleted?

Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-24  5:42 [RFC PATCH 00/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup to limit the amount of locked and pinned memory Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42 ` [RFC PATCH 01/19] mm: Introduce vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  6:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-24 14:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-01-30 11:36     ` Alistair Popple
2023-01-31 14:00   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-24  5:42 ` [RFC PATCH 07/19] vfio/type1: Charge pinned pages to pinned_vm instead of locked_vm Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42 ` [RFC PATCH 08/19] vfio/spapr_tce: Convert accounting to pinned_vm Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42 ` [RFC PATCH 09/19] io_uring: convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-01-24 14:44   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <Y8/uyBKHf5XoXvTW-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-30 11:12       ` Alistair Popple
2023-01-30 13:21         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found] ` <cover.f52b9eb2792bccb8a9ecd6bc95055705cfe2ae03.1674538665.git-series.apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 02/19] drivers/vhost: Convert " Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:55     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]       ` <20230124005356-mutt-send-email-mst-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-30 10:43         ` Alistair Popple
2023-01-24 14:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 03/19] drivers/vdpa: Convert vdpa to use the new vm_structure Alistair Popple
     [not found]     ` <f2e4696380f6678527a14e885556cb1bbd314737.1674538665.git-series.apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-24 14:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 04/19] infiniband/umem: Convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 05/19] RMDA/siw: " Alistair Popple
2023-01-24 14:37     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]       ` <Y8/tGIeg5mI9bDOa-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-24 15:22         ` Bernard Metzler
2023-01-24 15:56         ` Bernard Metzler
     [not found]           ` <SA0PR15MB3919F0CCF1D878DE8B243B0199C99-QVqTciyWr1pbckbNN7pyz4d3EbNNOtPMvxpqHgZTriW3zl9H0oFU5g@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-30 11:34             ` Alistair Popple
2023-01-30 13:27               ` Bernard Metzler
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 06/19] RDMA/usnic: convert " Alistair Popple
     [not found]     ` <03ed2d166826cd7055810c66a175e20fa2153c52.1674538665.git-series.apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-24 14:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <Y8/uGL+TA7ow4Zmu-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-30 11:10           ` Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 10/19] net: skb: Switch to using vm_account Alistair Popple
     [not found]     ` <9b54eef0b41b678cc5f318bd5ae0917bba5b8e21.1674538665.git-series.apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-24 14:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-01-30 11:17         ` Alistair Popple
     [not found]           ` <87pmawz2ma.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-06  4:36             ` Alistair Popple
     [not found]               ` <878rhbflcs.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-06 13:14                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 11/19] xdp: convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 13/19] fpga: dfl: afu: " Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 14/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup for pinned memory Alistair Popple
     [not found]     ` <183372b80aac73e640d9f5ac3c742d505fc6c1f2.1674538665.git-series.apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-27 21:44       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <Y9RFs+90TyzVMs83-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-30 13:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 15/19] mm/util: Extend vm_account to charge pages against the pin cgroup Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 16/19] mm/util: Refactor account_locked_vm Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 17/19] mm: Convert mmap and mlock to use account_locked_vm Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 18/19] mm/mmap: Charge locked memory to pins cgroup Alistair Popple
2023-01-24  5:42   ` [RFC PATCH 19/19] selftests/vm: Add pins-cgroup selftest for mlock/mmap Alistair Popple
2023-01-24 18:26   ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup to limit the amount of locked and pinned memory Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]     ` <CAJD7tkavoSu9WOnw4Nbxz41nq+Rm6Sq5EeOjh3CTyA=AT5=ujg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-31  0:54       ` Alistair Popple
     [not found]         ` <874js7zf38.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-31  5:14           ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]             ` <CAJD7tkZTvXjoNZYC99yekbA0zHkD4iFj0J3+8dsOMht6rxrRcQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-31 11:22               ` Alistair Popple
     [not found]                 ` <87r0vblzf3.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-31 19:49                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-01-24 20:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-01-31 13:57     ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]       ` <6369225e-3522-341b-cd20-d95b1f11ea71-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-31 14:03         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-01-31 14:06           ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]             ` <2e78d261-9ae9-d203-446e-eaa3c652ca6e-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-31 14:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <Y9khYwunmC/xdXT9-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-01-31 14:15                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-31 14:21                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-01-24  5:42 ` [RFC PATCH 12/19] kvm/book3s_64_vio: Convert account_locked_vm() to vm_account_pinned() Alistair Popple

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