From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/isolation: Merge individual nohz_full features into a common housekeeping flag
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 12:49:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+I61dp5qPkWK4s2@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230206155107.GA31453-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 04:51:09PM +0100, Michal Koutný wrote:
> Hello Frederic.
>
> On Sat, Feb 04, 2023 at 12:24:08AM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker <frederic-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > The individual isolation features turned on by nohz_full were initially
> > split in order for each of them to be tunable through cpusets. However
> > plans have changed in favour of an interface (be it cpusets or sysctl)
> > grouping all these features to be turned on/off altogether.
> > Then should the need ever arise, the interface can still be expanded
> > to handle the individual isolation features.
> >
> > Therefore the current isolation split between tick/timer/workqueue/rcu/
> > kthreads/misc doesn't make sense anymore.
>
> Why it doesn't make sense? I think it's a useful annotation of
> respective operations wrt CPU isolation.
But what do we need these annotations for? The only outcome I've ever
seen with these is that it confuses everyone.
>
> The grouping you did into HK_TYPE_KERNEL_NOISE (or even coarser) should
> IMO be done at the place where it'll be exposed into the favored
> interface (like it's with nohz_full=).
That being said I should reserve the grouping to HK_TYPE_KERNEL_NOISE when
I'll introduce the cpuset interface. This way I can add the support for
each part smoothly. For example first patch moves HK_TYPE_TIMER to
HK_TYPE_KERNEL_NOISE and unbound timers are supported by cpuset.kernel_noise,
second patch moves HK_TYPE_WQ to HK_TYPE_KERNEL_NOISE and unbound workqueues
are supported by cpuset.kernel_noise, etc until all of them turned by nohz_full=
are supported... This is what I'm doing in fact but I'm so slow to write this patchset...
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-07 11:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-03 23:24 [PATCH 0/2] sched/isolation: Prep work for pcp cache draining isolation Frederic Weisbecker
[not found] ` <20230203232409.163847-1-frederic-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-03 23:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/isolation: Merge individual nohz_full features into a common housekeeping flag Frederic Weisbecker
2023-02-06 15:51 ` Michal Koutný
[not found] ` <20230206155107.GA31453-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-07 11:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2023-02-07 12:59 ` Michal Koutný
[not found] ` <20230207125900.GA24523-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-07 15:21 ` Waiman Long
2023-02-03 23:24 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/isolation: Add cpu_is_isolated() API Frederic Weisbecker
2023-02-04 3:53 ` Waiman Long
[not found] ` <0f388863-9498-e61e-e2dc-965654544489-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-06 15:47 ` Michal Koutný
[not found] ` <20230206154710.GC21332-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-06 16:50 ` Waiman Long
2023-02-07 12:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-02-05 5:47 ` kernel test robot
[not found] ` <20230203232409.163847-3-frederic-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2023-02-04 11:09 ` kernel test robot
2023-02-13 13:34 ` Michal Hocko
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