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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org>
To: Kenny Ho <y2kenny-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Add BPF_PROG_TYPE_CGROUP_IOCTL
Date: Fri, 7 May 2021 10:59:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJUBer3wWKSAeXe7@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOWid-fL0=OM2XiOH+NFgn_e2L4Yx8sXA-+HicUb9bzhP0t8Bw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 10:06:32PM -0400, Kenny Ho wrote:
> Sorry for the late reply (I have been working on other stuff.)
> 
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 8:49 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > So I agree that on one side CU mask can be used for low-level quality
> > of service guarantees (like the CLOS cache stuff on intel cpus as an
> > example), and that's going to be rather hw specific no matter what.
> >
> > But my understanding of AMD's plans here is that CU mask is the only
> > thing you'll have to partition gpu usage in a multi-tenant environment
> > - whether that's cloud or also whether that's containing apps to make
> > sure the compositor can still draw the desktop (except for fullscreen
> > ofc) doesn't really matter I think.
> This is not correct.  Even in the original cgroup proposal, it
> supports both mask and count as a way to define unit(s) of sub-device.
> For AMD, we already have SRIOV that supports GPU partitioning in a
> time-sliced-of-a-whole-GPU fashion.

Hm I missed that. I feel like time-sliced-of-a-whole gpu is the easier gpu
cgroups controler to get started, since it's much closer to other cgroups
that control bandwidth of some kind. Whether it's i/o bandwidth or compute
bandwidht is kinda a wash.

CU mask feels a lot more like an isolation/guaranteed forward progress
kind of thing, and I suspect that's always going to be a lot more gpu hw
specific than anything we can reasonably put into a general cgroups
controller.

Also for the time slice cgroups thing, can you pls give me pointers to
these old patches that had it, and how it's done? I very obviously missed
that part.

Thanks, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-07  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-07 15:23 [RFC] Add BPF_PROG_TYPE_CGROUP_IOCTL Kenny Ho
     [not found] ` <20201007152355.2446741-1-Kenny.Ho-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-02 19:23   ` Kenny Ho
     [not found]     ` <CAOWid-d=a1Q3R92s7GrzxWhXx7_dc8NQvQg7i7RYTVv3+jHxkQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-03  5:32       ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]         ` <20201103053244.khibmr66p7lhv7ge-+o4/htvd0TCa6kscz5V53/3mLCh9rsb+VpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-03  5:39           ` Kenny Ho
2020-11-03  5:42             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-11-03 19:19               ` Kenny Ho
     [not found]                 ` <CAOWid-czZphRz6Y-H3OcObKCH=bLLC3=bOZaSB-6YBE56+Qzrg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-03 21:04                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]                     ` <20201103210418.q7hddyl7rvdplike-+o4/htvd0TCa6kscz5V53/3mLCh9rsb+VpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2020-11-03 22:57                       ` Kenny Ho
2020-11-03 23:28                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]                           ` <20201103232805.6uq4zg3gdvw2iiki-+o4/htvd0TCa6kscz5V53/3mLCh9rsb+VpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2021-02-01 14:49                             ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                               ` <YBgU9Vu0BGV8kCxD-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2021-02-01 16:47                                 ` Kenny Ho
2021-02-01 16:51                                 ` Kenny Ho
     [not found]                                   ` <CAOWid-eXMqcNpjFxbcuUDU7Y-CCYJRNT_9mzqFYm1jeCPdADGQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-02-03 11:09                                     ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                                       ` <YBqEbHyIjUjgk+es-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2021-02-03 19:01                                         ` Kenny Ho
     [not found]                                           ` <CAOWid-c4Nk717xUah19B=z=2DtztbtU=_4=fQdfhqpfNJYN2gw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-02-05 13:49                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-07  2:06                                               ` Kenny Ho
     [not found]                                                 ` <CAOWid-fL0=OM2XiOH+NFgn_e2L4Yx8sXA-+HicUb9bzhP0t8Bw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-07  8:59                                                   ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
     [not found]                                                     ` <YJUBer3wWKSAeXe7-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-07 15:33                                                       ` Kenny Ho
     [not found]                                                         ` <CAOWid-dmRsZUjF3cJ8+mx5FM9ksNQ_P9xY3jqxFiFMvN29SaLw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-07 16:13                                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-07 16:19                                                             ` Alex Deucher
2021-05-07 16:26                                                               ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                                                                 ` <YJVqL4c6SJc8wdkK-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-07 16:31                                                                   ` Alex Deucher
2021-05-07 16:50                                                                     ` Alex Deucher
     [not found]                                                                       ` <CADnq5_OjaPw5iF_82bjNPt6v-7OcRmXmXECcN+Gdg1NcucJiHA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-07 16:54                                                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-05-07 17:04                                                                           ` Kenny Ho
2021-05-07 19:33                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2021-05-07 19:55                                                                             ` Alex Deucher
2021-05-07 20:59                                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2021-05-07 22:30                                                                                 ` Alex Deucher
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <CADnq5_PudV4ufQW=DqrDow_vvMQDCJVxjqZeXeTvM=6Xp+a_RQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-07 23:45                                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2021-05-11 15:48                                                                                       ` Alex Deucher

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