From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Roman Gushchin Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/memcg: Free percpu stats memory of dying memcg's Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:33:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20220421145845.1044652-1-longman@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Return-path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linux.dev; s=key1; t=1650558823; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2j4GtVd07DMMzhasl57D24rZquXEpncLF4sks2SC8Tg=; b=RzjnYy6yqwp7ePlZWOGy4zJ7p9tV7LrQaNicdlcEY3otLSxF2tbfcewQc9CCnxrqW1twUV PjfdmRGXTs8IcJWhdFuts+UCnSa5O7u1XeW3jZzhif5rGQE0fMuGg6v+TLoMZC6988/yR4 Ru8kP7QTO3rUc1mNC/uroAU8bT28HyM= Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220421145845.1044652-1-longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Waiman Long Cc: Johannes Weiner , Michal Hocko , Shakeel Butt , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org, Muchun Song , "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" , Yang Shi , Vlastimil Babka On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:58:45AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote: > For systems with large number of CPUs, the majority of the memory > consumed by the mem_cgroup structure is actually the percpu stats > memory. When a large number of memory cgroups are continuously created > and destroyed (like in a container host), it is possible that more > and more mem_cgroup structures remained in the dying state holding up > increasing amount of percpu memory. > > We can't free up the memory of the dying mem_cgroup structure due to > active references in some other places. However, the percpu stats memory > allocated to that mem_cgroup is a different story. > > This patch adds a new percpu_stats_disabled variable to keep track of > the state of the percpu stats memory. If the variable is set, percpu > stats update will be disabled for that particular memcg. All the stats > update will be forward to its parent instead. Reading of the its percpu > stats will return 0. > > The flushing and freeing of the percpu stats memory is a multi-step > process. The percpu_stats_disabled variable is set when the memcg is > being set to offline state. After a grace period with the help of RCU, > the percpu stats data are flushed and then freed. > > This will greatly reduce the amount of memory held up by dying memory > cgroups. > > By running a simple management tool for container 2000 times per test > run, below are the results of increases of percpu memory (as reported > in /proc/meminfo) and nr_dying_descendants in root's cgroup.stat. Hi Waiman! I've been proposing the same idea some time ago: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20190312223404.28665-7-guro-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org/T/ . However I dropped it with the thinking that with many other fixes preventing the accumulation of the dying cgroups it's not worth the added complexity and a potential cpu overhead. I think it ultimately comes to the number of dying cgroups. If it's low, memory savings are not worth the cpu overhead. If it's high, they are. I hope long-term to drive it down significantly (with lru-pages reparenting being the first major milestone), but it might take a while. I don't have a strong opinion either way, just want to dump my thoughts on this. Thanks!