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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Roman Gushchin
	<roman.gushchin-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Wei Xu <weixugc-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Chen Wandun <chenwandun-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Add swappiness argument to memory.reclaim
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 08:56:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YoNHJwyjR7NJ5kG7@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkbDpyoODveCsnaqBBMZEkDvshXJmNdbk51yKSNgD7aGdg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon 16-05-22 15:29:42, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> The discussions on the patch series [1] to add memory.reclaim has
> shown that it is desirable to add an argument to control the type of
> memory being reclaimed by invoked proactive reclaim using
> memory.reclaim.
> 
> I am proposing adding a swappiness optional argument to the interface.
> If set, it overwrites vm.swappiness and per-memcg swappiness. This
> provides a way to enforce user policy on a stateless per-reclaim
> basis. We can make policy decisions to perform reclaim differently for
> tasks of different app classes based on their individual QoS needs. It
> also helps for use cases when particularly page cache is high and we
> want to mainly hit that without swapping out.

Can you be more specific about the usecase please? Also how do you
define the semantic? Behavior like vm_swappiness is rather vague because
the kernel is free to ignore (and it does indeed) this knob in many
situations. What is the expected behavior when user explicitly requests
a certain swappiness?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-17  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-16 22:29 [RFC] Add swappiness argument to memory.reclaim Yosry Ahmed
     [not found] ` <CAJD7tkbDpyoODveCsnaqBBMZEkDvshXJmNdbk51yKSNgD7aGdg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-17  6:56   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
     [not found]     ` <YoNHJwyjR7NJ5kG7-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-17 18:06       ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]         ` <CAJD7tkYnBjuwQDzdeo6irHY=so-E8z=Kc_kZe52anMOmRL+8yA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-17 20:06           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]             ` <YoQAVeGj19YpSMDb-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-19  5:44               ` Wei Xu
     [not found]                 ` <CAAPL-u8pZ_p+SQZnr=8UV37yiQpWRZny7g9p6YES0wa+g_kMJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-19  8:51                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <YoYFKdqayKRw2npp-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-19 15:29                       ` Wei Xu
2022-05-19 18:24                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-05-17 16:05   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-17 18:13     ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]       ` <CAJD7tkbbiP0RusWBdCvozjauKN-vhgvzWtsL3Hu5y2dLr63idQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-17 19:49         ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-17 20:11           ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]             ` <CAJD7tkaPWcFyisv3Kso0AFUGkQiiAiFmsV2R3ZU2SNc4XP8v+w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-17 20:45               ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-19  5:17                 ` Wei Xu

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