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From: Balbir Singh <bsingharora-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: CGEL <cgel.zte-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Roman Gushchin
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	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/memcg: support control THP behaviour in cgroup
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:14:45 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YoSq9W995QPM6tWQ@balbir-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <627b2df5.1c69fb81.4a22.160f-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 03:31:00AM +0000, CGEL wrote:
> On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 08:11:16PM -0700, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 07:47:29PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 7:19 PM CGEL <cgel.zte-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > [...]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All controls in cgroup v2 should be hierarchical. This is really
> > > > > > > required for a proper delegation semantic.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could we align to the semantic of /sys/fs/cgroup/memory.swappiness?
> > > > > > Some distributions like Ubuntu is still using cgroup v1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Other than enable flag, how would you handle the defrag flag
> > > > > hierarchically? It is much more complicated.
> > > >
> > > > Refer to memory.swappiness for cgroup, this new interface better be independent.
> > > 
> > > Let me give my 0.02. I buy the use-case of Admin restricting THPs to
> > > low priority jobs but I don't think memory controller is the right
> > > place to enforce that policy. Michal gave one way (prctl()) to enforce
> > > that policy. Have you explored the BPF way to enforce this policy?
> > 
> > +1 for bpf
> > 
> > I think these THP hints are too implementation-dependent and unstable to become
> > a part of cgroup API.
> >
> 
> Thanks! If no other suggesting we will submit a bpf version of this patch.
>

What is your proposal for BPF? How do you intend to add attach points
(attach_type) for policy? Is it still going to be per cgroup?

Balbir Singh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-18  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-05  3:38 [PATCH] mm/memcg: support control THP behaviour in cgroup cgel.zte-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found] ` <20220505033814.103256-1-xu.xin16-Th6q7B73Y6EnDS1+zs4M5A@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-05 12:49   ` kernel test robot
2022-05-05 13:31   ` kernel test robot
2022-05-05 16:09   ` kernel test robot
2022-05-06 13:41   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <YnUlntNFR4zeD+qa-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-07  2:05       ` CGEL
     [not found]         ` <6275d3e7.1c69fb81.1d62.4504-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-09 10:00           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <YnjmPAToTR0C5o8x-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-09 11:26               ` CGEL
     [not found]                 ` <6278fa75.1c69fb81.9c598.f794-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-09 11:48                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <Ynj/l+pyFJxKfcbQ-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-10  1:43                       ` CGEL
     [not found]                         ` <6279c354.1c69fb81.7f6c1.15e0-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-10 10:00                           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                             ` <Yno3pNQOn1lAMPnu-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-10 11:52                               ` CGEL
     [not found]                                 ` <627a5214.1c69fb81.1b7fb.47be-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-10 13:36                                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                     ` <YnpqYte2jLdcBiPg-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-11  1:59                                       ` CGEL
     [not found]                                         ` <627b1899.1c69fb81.cd831.12d9-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-11  7:21                                           ` Michal Hocko
2022-05-11  9:47                                             ` CGEL
2022-05-18  5:58                                       ` CGEL
2022-05-10 19:34                           ` Yang Shi
     [not found]                             ` <CAHbLzkqztB+NXVcxtd7bVo7onH6AcMJ3JWCAHHqH3OAdbZsMOQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-11  2:19                               ` CGEL
     [not found]                                 ` <627b1d39.1c69fb81.fe952.6426-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-11  2:47                                   ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]                                     ` <CALvZod5aqZjUE8BBQZxwHDBuSWOSEAOqW4_xE22Am0sGZZs4sw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-11  3:11                                       ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-11  3:31                                         ` CGEL
     [not found]                                           ` <627b2df5.1c69fb81.4a22.160f-ATjtLOhZ0NVl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-18  8:14                                             ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2022-05-11  3:17                                       ` CGEL

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