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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 7/8] cgroup/cpuset: Update description of cpuset.cpus.partition in cgroup-v2.rst
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2022 07:53:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yr4pgxUTmg+UN35F@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220630143211.GA22105@blackbody.suse.cz>

Hello,

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 04:32:11PM +0200, Michal Koutný wrote:
> file				owner
> parent/				user (mkdir)
> `- cpuset.cpus			root
> `- cpuset.cpus.partition	root	(P)
> `- child_1/			user
>   ` cpuset.cpus			user	(*)
> `- child_2/			user
>   ` cpuset.cpus			user	(*)
> 
> The writes to child cpuset.cpus may/may not invalidate parent's (P)
> partition validity (whether a cpu is left to it to host possible tasks).
> child_1 vs child_2 overlap affects only whether the children cgroups are
> a valid partition.
> 
> I think you mean: writes to children cpuset.cpus should be allowed,
> possible exclusivity violation should be reported in
> parent/cpuset.cpus.partition.

I see.

> What I thought was OK: prevent (fail) writes to children cpuset.cpus
> that'd violate the exclusivity (or would take the last cpu from parent
> if it's necessary to host a task).
> IMO, it's similar to failed writes to parent/cgroup.subtree_control in a
> delegated subtree if the parent still has some tasks (that'd violate
> internal node constraint).
> 
> What I think might still be OK: allow writes to children cpuset.cpus
> that violate exclusivity and report that in children's
> cpuset.cpus.partition. Writes that'd take last cpu from parent should
> still fail (similar to the failing subtree_control writes above).

Yeah, this one.

So, here, one important question is who owns cpuset.cpus.partition
file - is it a konb which is owned by the parent like other resource
control knobs including cpuset.cpus or is it a knob which is owned by
the cgroup itself for selecting its own operation like cgroup.procs or
cgroup.subtree_control.

In the former case, the parent being able to say that "my children
can't overlap" makes sense although I'm not a big fan of the current
interface (again, who owns that knob?). In the latter case, it doesn't
really make sense cuz it'd be declaring "I can't make my children
overlap" - well, then, don't.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-30 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-10 15:34 [PATCH v11 0/8] cgroup/cpuset: cpu partition code enhancements Waiman Long
2022-05-10 15:34 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] cgroup/cpuset: Miscellaneous cleanups & add helper functions Waiman Long
2022-05-10 15:34 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] cgroup/cpuset: Allow no-task partition to have empty cpuset.cpus.effective Waiman Long
2022-06-12 17:40   ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-12 17:41     ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-13  2:53       ` Waiman Long
2022-06-13  2:55         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <YqanEZZooeZwtutA-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-06-13  3:04             ` Waiman Long
2022-06-13 14:02             ` Michal Koutný
2022-06-13 16:47               ` Waiman Long
2022-06-13 17:23                 ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-13  2:50     ` Waiman Long
     [not found] ` <20220510153413.400020-1-longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-10 15:34   ` [PATCH v11 1/8] cgroup/cpuset: Add top_cpuset check in update_tasks_cpumask() Waiman Long
2022-05-10 15:34   ` [PATCH v11 4/8] cgroup/cpuset: Relax constraints to partition & cpus changes Waiman Long
2022-05-10 15:34   ` [PATCH v11 5/8] cgroup/cpuset: Add a new isolated cpus.partition type Waiman Long
2022-05-10 15:34 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] cgroup/cpuset: Show invalid partition reason string Waiman Long
2022-05-10 15:34 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] cgroup/cpuset: Update description of cpuset.cpus.partition in cgroup-v2.rst Waiman Long
2022-06-12 17:49   ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-13  3:02     ` Waiman Long
     [not found]       ` <404171dc-0da3-21f2-5003-9718f875e967-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2022-06-13  3:12         ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-13 13:18           ` Waiman Long
2022-06-13 17:06             ` Waiman Long
     [not found]           ` <YqarMyNo9oHxhZFh-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-06-13 14:24             ` Michal Koutný
2022-06-13 17:28               ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-13 17:55                 ` Michal Koutný
     [not found]                   ` <20220613175548.GB21665-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2022-06-13 18:00                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <Yqd7WMFj6AEyV3Cy-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-06-14 11:53                         ` Michal Koutný
     [not found]                           ` <20220614115345.GA6771-9OudH3eul5jcvrawFnH+a6VXKuFTiq87@public.gmane.org>
2022-06-27 19:10                             ` Tejun Heo
2022-06-30 14:32                               ` Michal Koutný
2022-06-30 22:53                                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2022-05-10 15:34 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] kselftest/cgroup: Add cpuset v2 partition root state test Waiman Long
     [not found]   ` <20220510153413.400020-9-longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2022-05-21 10:24     ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2022-05-22  2:40       ` Waiman Long
2022-05-20 16:00 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] cgroup/cpuset: cpu partition code enhancements Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-05-20 16:46   ` Waiman Long
2022-05-24 16:48     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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