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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
To: Zhaoyang Huang <huangzhaoyang-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan
	<surenb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"zhaoyang.huang"
	<zhaoyang.huang-1tVvrHeaX6nQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Ke Wang <ke.wang-1tVvrHeaX6nQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan.x-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
	Roman Gushchin
	<roman.gushchin-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] memcg: use root_mem_cgroup when css is inherited
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 09:35:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ywd6hN1Q9MtQWZCp@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGWkznHL_G3OoAc5gJ+iwxqxonr21-fU+F4T2gkpXH68keLpuQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 06:11:09PM +0800, Zhaoyang Huang wrote:
> Sorry for any misunderstanding among the discussion. My purpose is
> real and simple as I have stated from the very beginning that I would
> like to have per-app cgroup hierarchy to charge memory to root if it
> is not enabled explicitly for memory. The reason has also been stated
> like reclaim and workingset regression in suren's report. I don't
> think my proposal will do any harm to current v2's mechanism besides
> asking for the admin echo "+memory" to their desire group.

It would permit children to escape parental control, completely
breaking the hierarchy and delegation guarantees currently in
place. That just isn't going to happen.

Nacked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>

I would suggest focusing on finding the root cause for the reclaim
problem you are describing. It's possible all we need is a fix to
reclaim or the workingset code.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-25 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-19 11:29 [RFC PATCH] memcg: use root_mem_cgroup when css is inherited zhaoyang.huang
     [not found] ` <1660908562-17409-1-git-send-email-zhaoyang.huang-1tVvrHeaX6nQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-19 16:29   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <Yv+6YjaGAv52yvq9-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-19 17:08       ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]         ` <CALvZod7QdLSMdBoD2WztL72qS8kJe7F79JuCH6t19rRcw6Pn1w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-19 17:10           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <Yv/EArPDTcCrGqJh-NiLfg/pYEd1N0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-22 11:31               ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-23  2:31                 ` Zhaoyang Huang
     [not found]                   ` <CAGWkznEB+R0YBaBFBL7dPqs8R=qKC6+ixTWEGCYy2PaczXkaPA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-23  5:21                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                       ` <YwRjyx6wFLk8WTDe-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-23  6:03                         ` Zhaoyang Huang
     [not found]                           ` <CAGWkznGaYTv4u4kOo-rupfyWzDNJXNKTchwP6dbUK-=UXWm47w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-23  8:33                             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                               ` <YwSQ4APOu/H7lYGL-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-23  9:20                                 ` Zhaoyang Huang
     [not found]                                   ` <CAGWkznGd6mgareABseMKY5p0f1=5dkfVkj=NS7_B6OkXBYSwyw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-23 11:51                                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                       ` <YwS/S9Sd1OWnT81Q-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-23 16:21                                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
     [not found]                                           ` <CAJuCfpH+T9+eOVYDfOv9yNSfAvq=pJtMp4ZaoYaM7iMY9XkaUw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-24  7:59                                             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                               ` <YwXaXHRhy51xH4rk-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-24 17:13                                                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-08-24  2:23                                         ` Zhaoyang Huang
     [not found]                                           ` <CAGWkznGYLyF+njUB0gFF3JVdThnK9JaNsqxXYFhbdSwEQpCxvA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-24  7:50                                             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                               ` <YwXYVjRpXQjQMsxr-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-24  9:34                                                 ` Zhaoyang Huang
     [not found]                                                   ` <CAGWkznEqX3DwHW_owiK+HuuQ-HsUYK4vKmLhSxgzGn20Vzid2A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-24 10:27                                                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                       ` <YwX89JCQCKMMYdG9-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-25  0:43                                                         ` Zhaoyang Huang
     [not found]                                                           ` <CAGWkznF+dBjLzAxMMXWYSZ_5q3KA-ou0P7XM7jSYN7JSRp8N0w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-25  6:40                                                             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                               ` <YwcZctA2S3Sd0LBN-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-25  8:34                                                                 ` Zhaoyang Huang
2022-08-25  8:50                                                                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                     ` <Ywc34ci5XUMXOSYA-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-25 10:11                                                                       ` Zhaoyang Huang
     [not found]                                                                         ` <CAGWkznHL_G3OoAc5gJ+iwxqxonr21-fU+F4T2gkpXH68keLpuQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2022-08-25 13:35                                                                           ` Johannes Weiner [this message]

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