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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Chris Li <chrisl-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"T.J. Mercier"
	<tjmercier-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	lsf-pc-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Roman Gushchin
	<roman.gushchin-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Kalesh Singh
	<kaleshsingh-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Reducing zombie memcgs
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 18:09:20 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZF6rACJzilA06oe+@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87jzxe9baj.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 06:45:13PM +1000, Alistair Popple wrote:

> However review comments suggested it needed to be added as part of
> memcg. As soon as we do that we have to address how we deal with shared
> memory. If we stick with the original RLIMIT proposal this discussion
> goes away, but based on feedback I think I need to at least investigate
> integrating it into memcg to get anything merged.

Personally I don't see how we can effectively solve the per-page
problem without also tracking all the owning memcgs for every
page. This means giving each struct page an array of memcgs

I suspect this will be too expensive to be realistically
implementable.

If it is done then we may not even need a pin controller on its own as
the main memcg should capture most of it. (althought it doesn't
distinguish between movable/swappable and non-swappable memory)

But this is all being done for the libvirt people, so it would be good
to involve them

Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-12 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-11 23:36 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Reducing zombie memcgs T.J. Mercier
     [not found] ` <CABdmKX2M6koq4Q0Cmp_-=wbP0Qa190HdEGGaHfxNS05gAkUtPA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-04-11 23:48   ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]     ` <CAJD7tkZw9uVPe5KH2xrihsv5nDmExJmkmsUPYP6Npvv6Q0NcVw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-04-25 11:36       ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]         ` <CAJD7tkb56gR0X5v3VHfmk3az3bOz=wF2jhEi+7Eek0J8XXBeWQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-04-25 18:42           ` Waiman Long
     [not found]             ` <27e15be8-d0eb-ed32-a0ec-5ec9b59f1f27-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-04-25 18:53               ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]                 ` <CAJD7tkb1W0bP3AU9KepOYPx-AD-fMKSfUhj_Cmth63RS9umMsg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-04-26 20:15                   ` Waiman Long
2023-05-01 16:38           ` Roman Gushchin
2023-05-02  7:18             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-05-02 20:02             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-05-03 22:15   ` Chris Li
     [not found]     ` <ZFLdDyHoIdJSXJt+-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-04 11:58       ` Alistair Popple
     [not found]         ` <874josz4rd.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-04 15:31           ` Chris Li
     [not found]             ` <ZFPP71czDDxMPLQK-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-05 13:53               ` Alistair Popple
     [not found]                 ` <877ctm518f.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-06 22:49                   ` Chris Li
     [not found]                     ` <ZFbZZPkSpsKMe8iR-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-08  8:17                       ` Alistair Popple
     [not found]                         ` <87ttwnkzap.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-10 14:51                           ` Chris Li
     [not found]                             ` <ZFuvhP5qGPivokc0-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-12  8:45                               ` Alistair Popple
     [not found]                                 ` <87jzxe9baj.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-12 21:09                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
     [not found]                                     ` <ZF6rACJzilA06oe+-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-16 12:21                                       ` Alistair Popple
     [not found]                                         ` <87y1lo8nwp.fsf-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-19 15:47                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-20 15:09                                       ` Chris Li
2023-05-20 15:31                                   ` Chris Li
     [not found]                                     ` <ZGjntWoAfgyT0doo-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-29 19:31                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-05-04 17:02       ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]         ` <CALvZod4=+ANT6UR5h7Cp+0hKkVx6tPAaRa5iqBF=L2VBdMKERQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-05-04 17:36           ` Chris Li

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