From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Dan Schatzberg <schatzberg.dan@gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>,
Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
"open list:CONTROL GROUP (CGROUP)" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: Clarify usage of memory limits
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 14:09:15 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZH55K79CaSD6Zya1@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230601183820.3839891-1-schatzberg.dan@gmail.com>
Hello,
On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 11:38:19AM -0700, Dan Schatzberg wrote:
> The existing documentation refers to memory.high as the "main mechanism
> to control memory usage." This seems incorrect to me - memory.high can
> result in reclaim pressure which simply leads to stalls unless some
> external component observes and actions on it (e.g. systemd-oomd can be
> used for this purpose). While this is feasible, users are unaware of
> this interaction and are led to believe that memory.high alone is an
> effective mechanism for limiting memory.
>
> The documentation should recommend the use of memory.max as the
> effective way to enforce memory limits - it triggers reclaim and results
> in OOM kills by itself.
>
> Signed-off-by: Dan Schatzberg <schatzberg.dan@gmail.com>
Applied to cgroup/for-6.4-fixes. Please see below for a comment tho.
> @@ -1213,23 +1213,25 @@ PAGE_SIZE multiple when read back.
> A read-write single value file which exists on non-root
> cgroups. The default is "max".
>
> - Memory usage throttle limit. This is the main mechanism to
> - control memory usage of a cgroup. If a cgroup's usage goes
> + Memory usage throttle limit. If a cgroup's usage goes
> over the high boundary, the processes of the cgroup are
> throttled and put under heavy reclaim pressure.
>
> Going over the high limit never invokes the OOM killer and
> - under extreme conditions the limit may be breached.
> + under extreme conditions the limit may be breached. The high
> + limit should be used in scenarios where an external process
> + monitors the limited cgroup to alleviate heavy reclaim
> + pressure.
I think it'd be helpful to provide pointers to oomd and systemd's
implementation of it here.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-06 0:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-01 18:38 [PATCH] Documentation: Clarify usage of memory limits Dan Schatzberg
2023-06-01 19:15 ` Waiman Long
2023-06-01 19:53 ` Johannes Weiner
[not found] ` <20230601195345.GB157732-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2023-06-02 0:09 ` Waiman Long
2023-06-01 19:36 ` Johannes Weiner
[not found] ` <20230601183820.3839891-1-schatzberg.dan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2023-06-03 21:33 ` Chris Down
2023-06-06 0:09 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2023-06-06 13:09 ` Dan Schatzberg
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