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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ivan Babrou <ivan-lDpJ742SOEtZroRs9YW3xA@public.gmane.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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	Linux MM <linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
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	Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Roman Gushchin
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	Muchun Song <muchun.song-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
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Subject: Re: Expensive memory.stat + cpu.stat reads
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 14:18:31 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNrEV1qEcQMUgztn@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkb=dUfc=L+61noQYHymHPUHswm_XUyFvRdaZemo80qUdQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hello,

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 05:01:08PM -0700, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> There have been a lot of problems coming from this global rstat lock:
> hard lockups (when we used to flush atomically), unified flushing
> being expensive, skipping flushing being inaccurate, etc.
> 
> I wonder if it's time to rethink this lock and break it down into
> granular locks. Perhaps a per-cgroup lock, and develop a locking
> scheme where you always lock a parent then a child, then flush the
> child and unlock it and move to the next child, etc. This will allow
> concurrent flushing of non-root cgroups. Even when flushing the root,
> if we flush all its children first without locking the root, then only
> lock the root when flushing the top-level children, then some level of
> concurrency can be achieved.
> 
> Maybe this is too complicated, I never tried to implement it, but I
> have been bouncing around this idea in my head for a while now.
> 
> We can also split the update tree per controller. As far as I can tell
> there is no reason to flush cpu stats for example when someone wants
> to read memory stats.

There's another thread. Let's continue there but I'm a bit skeptical whether
splitting the lock is a good solution here. Regardless of locking, we don't
want to run in an atomic context for that long anwyay.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-15  0:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-30 23:22 Expensive memory.stat + cpu.stat reads Ivan Babrou
     [not found] ` <CABWYdi0c6__rh-K7dcM_pkf9BJdTRtAU08M43KO9ME4-dsgfoQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-06  6:20   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-07-10 23:21     ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-11  0:44       ` Waiman Long
     [not found]         ` <d3f3a7bc-b181-a408-af1d-dd401c172cbf-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-13 23:25           ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]             ` <CABWYdi2iWYT0sHpK74W6=Oz6HA_3bAqKQd4h+amK0n3T3nge6g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-14 17:23               ` Waiman Long
     [not found]                 ` <fea3587a-ca6a-6930-bd3d-c4f7f330be67-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-07-15  0:00                   ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-15  0:30             ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]               ` <CABWYdi3YNwtPDwwJWmCO-ER50iP7CfbXkCep5TKb-9QzY-a40A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-11 22:03                 ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]                   ` <CABWYdi0+0gxr7PB4R8rh6hXO=H7ZaCzfk8bmOSeQMuZR7s7Pjg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-11 22:27                     ` Waiman Long
     [not found]                       ` <a052dffe-ed5e-6d22-8af8-0861e618f327-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-11 22:35                         ` Ivan Babrou
     [not found]                           ` <CABWYdi0CXy2GZax_s6O-Xc0gvH+TGJzKwv_v6QqMty9P-ATJug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-12  2:33                             ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]                               ` <CALvZod65Y-dSkH6a=ASTDTK2oGznTd7Yts1csttxoP0w9jaQUw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-14 17:56                                 ` Ivan Babrou
2023-08-11 23:43                     ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]                       ` <CAJD7tkaf5GNbyhCbWyyLtxpqmZ4+iByQgmS1QEFf+bnEMCdmFA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-12  0:01                         ` Yosry Ahmed
     [not found]                           ` <CAJD7tkb=dUfc=L+61noQYHymHPUHswm_XUyFvRdaZemo80qUdQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-15  0:18                             ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2023-08-15  0:30                               ` Ivan Babrou
2023-08-15  0:31                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-15  0:14       ` Ivan Babrou
2023-07-10 14:44   ` Michal Koutný
2023-07-10 23:23     ` Ivan Babrou

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